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We placed the order for our ID4 Gradient on 25 May 21; confirmed on 27 May 21; locked on 3 June 21; and notified via VW email leaving factory on 1 Aug 21. Patiently watching the Wheel of Wait as it sits on Step 4/7. We have a VIN and a status code of 20-2 (not sure what that indicates). The expected delivery dates are Sept-Oct 2021. We learned from our sales person at the dealer that our ID4 is on vessel #607. We cannot find any information about a vehicle carrier vessel with this number from the PWL Shipping Volkswagen Export Schedule. Any assistance from those with more knowledge of VW's shipping would be greatly appreciated.
 

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We placed the order for our ID4 Gradient on 25 May 21; confirmed on 27 May 21; locked on 3 June 21; and notified via VW email leaving factory on 1 Aug 21. Patiently watching the Wheel of Wait as it sits on Step 4/7. We have a VIN and a status code of 20-2 (not sure what that indicates). The expected delivery dates are Sept-Oct 2021. We learned from our sales person at the dealer that our ID4 is on vessel #607. We cannot find any information about a vehicle carrier vessel with this number from the PWL Shipping Volkswagen Export Schedule. Any assistance from those with more knowledge of VW's shipping would be greatly appreciated.
Yours is on the same schedule as mine and we are pretty sure it's the Siem Cicero (even though the older PWL list had a different number for that vessel).
 

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We placed the order for our ID4 Gradient on 25 May 21; confirmed on 27 May 21; locked on 3 June 21; and notified via VW email leaving factory on 1 Aug 21. Patiently watching the Wheel of Wait as it sits on Step 4/7. We have a VIN and a status code of 20-2 (not sure what that indicates). The expected delivery dates are Sept-Oct 2021. We learned from our sales person at the dealer that our ID4 is on vessel #607. We cannot find any information about a vehicle carrier vessel with this number from the PWL Shipping Volkswagen Export Schedule. Any assistance from those with more knowledge of VW's shipping would be greatly appreciated.
Hi krmid4mac,

Just curious if your "leaving the factory" email said that it was on the boat. Mine said, "As you’re reading this email your ID.4 is journeying across the ocean and heading your way." and I've been obsessively checking various sources to see where it might be and what boat it might be on. When I look at your dates, if you received the same email as me, that suggests that its been on the boat for over a month! That's seems like a long time as when I look at the amount of time it takes for the Siem Confucius (this is the boat I assume my car is on) to cross the Atlantic, it only takes about 10 days before it reaches Davisville (this is the port I believe it should be offloaded at). I'm not sure where you are located but I'm assuming that may play a role, I'm just surprised it hasn't transitioned to "Arriving in the US" in over a month.

From your research, should I be anchoring myself to a wait of more than a month as it looks like both you and PacNWStateofMind have been waiting for the same amount of time.

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We are in San Diego and, yes, we are surprised to be stuck at 'Leaving the Factory' for almost 45 days. Here is the text in the VW email notifying us that our ID4 was leaving the factory:
"You can finally stop refreshing your inbox, the production of your ID.4 is officially complete. As you’re reading this email your ID.4 is journeying across the ocean and heading your way." The phrase "journeying across the ocean" could be interpreted to mean our ID4 is on a ship. Per PacNWStateofMind's reply, I have tried to determine the various ports of call for the Siem Cicero but all I can determine is that this ship is expected to arrive in Baltimore on 22 Sep 21 having left Emden, DE on 10 Sep 21. I have been unable to determine the ensuing ports of call. I have wondered if the August vacation shutdown resulted in our VW ID4 sitting somewhere for a month before being loaded onto shipping vessel #607.
 

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We placed the order for our ID4 Gradient on 25 May 21; confirmed on 27 May 21; locked on 3 June 21; and notified via VW email leaving factory on 1 Aug 21. Patiently watching the Wheel of Wait as it sits on Step 4/7. We have a VIN and a status code of 20-2 (not sure what that indicates). The expected delivery dates are Sept-Oct 2021. We learned from our sales person at the dealer that our ID4 is on vessel #607. We cannot find any information about a vehicle carrier vessel with this number from the PWL Shipping Volkswagen Export Schedule. Any assistance from those with more knowledge of VW's shipping would be greatly appreciated.
Interesting, I ordered a Gradient on 5/27, locked on 6/3 just like you but mine did not go into production until the end of August and I only got my vin last Monday. (Mine is blue with the galaxy black seats). I'm still showing as status 20-1. Also in SoCal. Somehow we may not be on the same boat.
 

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FWIW, we ordered a moonstone gray AWD pro S gradient locked in mid-June and received an email that it was leaving the factory. Oddly enough, we were just messing around on the portal and noticed the status had changed to leaving the factory on 9/7 but didn't get the email until 2 days later on 9/9, so really not sure when the status even changed on the portal itself. Not sure what that all means but the optimist in me is hoping that it had already made its way onto a ship before we received the email, though probably not the case.

To give you an idea of how obsessed we've been with tracking it, we've called the dealer but they claim to have no more info than we do. So I started going through the GPS data for the ships that we believe VW uses. Of them I think the only likely candidates are the following:

Siem Confucius - left Emden on 9/3 (super optimistic of us)
Siem Cicero - left Emden on 9/10 (probably more realistic)
Bishu Highway - Arriving in Emden on 9/13 (a possibility)
Siem Aristotle - Arriving in Emden on 9/19 (also a possibility)

If I take the verbiage in the email at face value, which is the same text as you received, I would expect Confucius and Cicero to be the ships carrying my car. If I assume that it has simply left the factory but is sitting at port awaiting a ship, it'll probably be Bishu Highway or Siem Aristotle...All that said, it is what it is and I just have to wait it out.

Good luck to you all and thanks for sharing the info you have.
 

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Anyone know what shipping vessel 266 is? My dealer says the port of entry is houston and the ship departure date was 09/08
 

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I think it’s Siem Cicero

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Base on emden port info it also looks likely to be Cicero as it departed emden on 9/10. That said when i look up the Cicero, i see an MMO number and an MMSI number, neither of which includes 266. What do these 2 or 3 digit ship numbers correspond to? Are they just VW specific identifiers?
 

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Hi all. I'm a new forum member; I just placed my initial $100 deposit for an ID.4 a few days ago.

I was googling on the web to learn more about this VW shipping process and was able to find this PDF document. (see attached).

The document states it is from "VOLKSWAGEN Konzernlogistik GmbH & Co. OHG", which makes me think that VW utilizes a sister logistics and shipping company for their production vehicle transport -- this makes a lot of sense.

I surmise that the various 3-digit ship numbers are internal VW asset ship identity numbers. The MMSI is a marine identifier for each ship's radio (and also for emergencies, like Coast Guard location fixing), and the MMO number (likely) is the organization number for this VW sister company to have the ships sail within UK waters.

I can't tell how old the PDF is, but it matches up with the boat numbers and boat names from this thread, and seems to provide greater detail about shipping routes, weather delays, and more.

I hope this helps? My best to everyone, it's great to be here.

--Neil
 

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Welcome! Newer here too. I just reserved mine last Saturday as well for an AWD Pro S Gradient.

The site estimated May 2022 for me, but the dealer I visited guesstimated about 6 months. Maybe less if people give up their reservations after they’re built.
 

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Just updating to let everyone know to check their statuses! We noticed ours went from 20-1 to 20-2 this morning. This was still 20-1 as of eod yesterday. That said, I would expect our car to be on the Siem Aristotle, since it was scheduled to arrive in Emden on 9/19. However, vesselfinder suggests that Aristotle hasn't yet made it to Emden... If anyone else has a different boat to nominate for carrying this next batch of cars out of Germany I'm all ears!
 

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This morning (Tuesday 21 Sep 21) I checked MyVW Portal and we are still stuck at Step 4/7 on the Wheel of Wait. Having learned how to check manifests ( at importinfo.com) I discovered that Vessel THEMIS LEADER arrived at the port of San Diego (our home) on Sunday 19 Sep 21 and offloaded 164 E21 ID.4s. (My initial post referenced our vessel being #607 per the dealer; it is actually #637 per PWL.). Attached is the Manifest for Master BOL VWTGEE6371013501. Hopefully one of those 164 VW ID.4 is our Kings Red Metallic Pro S Gradient soon headed to our dealer!

Out of curiosity, I decided to query marinevesseltraffic.com to see where this vessel is currently and its next port of call. This vessel must be really fast and on hydrofoils as marinevesseltraffic.com indicates the ship was in Thailand on 18 Sep 19.

I must be missing something...Any thoughts from the expert users?
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This morning (Tuesday 21 Sep 21) I checked MyVW Portal and we are still stuck at Step 4/7 on the Wheel of Wait. Having learned how to check manifests ( at importinfo.com) I discovered that Vessel THEMIS LEADER arrived at the port of San Diego (our home) on Sunday 19 Sep 21 and offloaded 164 E21 ID.4s. (My initial post referenced our vessel being #607 per the dealer; it is actually #637 per PWL.). Attached is the Manifest for Master BOL VWTGEE6371013501. Hopefully one of those 164 VW ID.4 is our Kings Red Metallic Pro S Gradient soon headed to our dealer!

Out of curiosity, I decided to query marinevesseltraffic.com to see where this vessel is currently and its next port of call. This vessel must be really fast and on hydrofoils as marinevesseltraffic.com indicates the ship was in Thailand on 18 Sep 19.

I must be missing something...Any thoughts from the expert users?
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When I look up Themis leader it looks like it left from Taiwan on the 17th and is headed to Thailand. Whatever you are missing, I must also be missing as well.
 

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This morning (Tuesday 21 Sep 21) I checked MyVW Portal and we are still stuck at Step 4/7 on the Wheel of Wait. Having learned how to check manifests ( at importinfo.com) I discovered that Vessel THEMIS LEADER arrived at the port of San Diego (our home) on Sunday 19 Sep 21 and offloaded 164 E21 ID.4s. (My initial post referenced our vessel being #607 per the dealer; it is actually #637 per PWL.). Attached is the Manifest for Master BOL VWTGEE6371013501. Hopefully one of those 164 VW ID.4 is our Kings Red Metallic Pro S Gradient soon headed to our dealer!

Out of curiosity, I decided to query marinevesseltraffic.com to see where this vessel is currently and its next port of call. This vessel must be really fast and on hydrofoils as marinevesseltraffic.com indicates the ship was in Thailand on 18 Sep 19.

I must be missing something...Any thoughts from the expert users?
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On ShippingExplorer it shows that Themis Leader was in San Diego on August 22 for 14 hours, then went to Oxnard, CA, Kawasaki Japan, then the port of Bali, Taiwan September 17.
 

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I just now checked MyVW Portal and our Kings Red Metallic ID.4 Pro S Gradient most likely was on the THEMIS LEADER vessel as we have now advanced to step 5/7 with a status code of 30-2 on the Wheel of Wait! I still find it amusing that THEMIS LEADER was in Taipei, Taiwan on 17 Sep 21 (per vesselfinder.com), unloaded 164 ID.4' in San Diego on 19 Sep 21 (per importinfo.com and manifest previously mentioned) and is now heading for Laem Chabang, Thailand with an ETA of 24 Sep 21 (per vesselfinder.com). Someone should patent their propulsion system and make a fortune!
 

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FWIW, we ordered a moonstone gray AWD pro S gradient locked in mid-June and received an email that it was leaving the factory. Oddly enough, we were just messing around on the portal and noticed the status had changed to leaving the factory on 9/7 but didn't get the email until 2 days later on 9/9, so really not sure when the status even changed on the portal itself. Not sure what that all means but the optimist in me is hoping that it had already made its way onto a ship before we received the email, though probably not the case.

To give you an idea of how obsessed we've been with tracking it, we've called the dealer but they claim to have no more info than we do. So I started going through the GPS data for the ships that we believe VW uses. Of them I think the only likely candidates are the following:

Siem Confucius - left Emden on 9/3 (super optimistic of us)
Siem Cicero - left Emden on 9/10 (probably more realistic)
Bishu Highway - Arriving in Emden on 9/13 (a possibility)
Siem Aristotle - Arriving in Emden on 9/19 (also a possibility)

If I take the verbiage in the email at face value, which is the same text as you received, I would expect Confucius and Cicero to be the ships carrying my car. If I assume that it has simply left the factory but is sitting at port awaiting a ship, it'll probably be Bishu Highway or Siem Aristotle...All that said, it is what it is and I just have to wait it out.

Good luck to you all and thanks for sharing the info you have.

I received the "leaving factory" notification on 09/02/2021. As of 09/23/2021 my Production Order Status Code still shows 20-1, but in the website developer codes I read: "fromEstmtdDlvryDate":"2021-9-01", "toEstmtdDlvryDate":"2021-10-01." I suspect that my ID4 is on the Siem Cicero which arrived in Baltimore last night. It will probably makes it way down to Savannah/Brunswick, GA in the next few days and drop my car off there. Hopefully, they will make the 10/1 estimated delivery date
 

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I received the "leaving factory" notification on 09/02/2021. As of 09/23/2021 my Production Order Status Code still shows 20-1, but in the website developer codes I read: "fromEstmtdDlvryDate":"2021-9-01", "toEstmtdDlvryDate":"2021-10-01." I suspect that my ID4 is on the Siem Cicero which arrived in Baltimore last night. It will probably makes it way down to Savannah/Brunswick, GA in the next few days and drop my car off there. Hopefully, they will make the 10/1 estimated delivery date
Hi BamaEV,

I have the same estimated delivery date range as you do but I’m in NJ. I got the leaving factory email a couple days after I noticed the Status change to 20-1. I recently had the status change to 20-2 but suspect mine is on Bishu Highway, which is supposed to get to Davisville on 9/29. The status changed a couple days after bishu highway left emden, so I’m hoping they are just a couple days slow to update the status each time. Otherwise my car may be in the Aristotle which Just made it back to emden this week. Hopefully, even if it’s late to arrive relative to the estimated date, 1 or 2 weeks after the estimate seems reasonable but it’ll be torture nonetheless.
 
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