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@CJamie,

The iD.4 was at my local VW dealer near Boston. When I got there around 12 there was a few people then everyone left so I asked if I could park my e-Golf next to it.
 

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Drove by my local Ford dealer this morning thinking they may have the Mach-E the ordered for stock. They didn't but they did had the Red demo unit (how is this an SUV?). So I took the chance to take a size compression to my e-Golf.

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Interesting. Thanks!

It's more a fastback/sportback slightly raised Mustang-esque form factor. I don't think it purports to be a CUV/SUV, but Ford wouldn't mind taking some of that business, especially as they no longer make a sedan.
 

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@Huey52,

I am fine with Ford calling it a CUV but an SUV no. It is the same thing with the Model Y and ID.4. The seat position is higher but on all (3) the ground clearance is only slightly better than a car.

Either way Ford did a great job on the Mach-E and that is coming from someone that has no interest in 95%+ of what Ford has sold in the past 20 years.
 

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I am fine with Ford calling it a CUV but an SUV no.
I agree, CUV is the proper description, particularly considering the very low ground clearance. Ford calls it as SUV, the EPA classifies it as a "Small Station Wagon! :rolleyes:
 

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I preferred my 8" ground clearance Audi allroad to any prior/latter CUV/SUV. Just enough clearance for the occasional dirt road but still very smooth on the highway. It was clearly a "station wagon" but Audi preferred "avant."

I agree that Ford has no business calling it an SUV in its typical application. The BMW moniker of "sports activity vehicle" perhaps tho'.
 

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What is everyone's differentiation between SUV and CUV? I always used the old school definition so SUVs are only vehicles based on a truck platform while CUVs are unibody platform (granted, "skateboard" EV platform doesn't fall in either category). Using that classification, there are very few SUVs remaining. Only the Expedition remains in Ford's lineup as an SUV, all their other "SUVs" are unibody including the Explorer.
 

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Ground clearance of the most discussed vehicles:
Tesla Model 3 5.5 inch
Tesla Model Y 6.6 inch
Mustang Mach-E 5.7 inch
VW ID4 8.26
There's your 8 inches @Huey52. :)
Interesting that there is this much diversity here.
 
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I view the Tesla's and the Mustang as slightly lifted sedans/sportbacks whereas the ID.4 is a CUV/SUV. Yes, the 'Y' purports to be a small SUV (with 'X' a large SUV) but is really just a bit further elevated sportback imho.

As such the ID.4 stands alone in this listing and should be in the 8"+ realm.

Another pleasant surprise for me. Thanks!

There's your 8 inches @Huey52. :)
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It's an ever more complex differentiation with "SUV" being the primary focus of so many manufacturers. I agree that historically SUV's were built on truck platforms and employed truck engines, but most are now unibody with refined cross-brand turbo-4's.

My differentiation of CUV vs. SUV btw is that the former has a lower ground clearance with sedan-like stance and lower more curvaceous upper body styling. The latter the typical higher stance and boxy body. Therefore the Macan to me is a CUV and stablemate Q5 an SUV. The pre-2020 Benz GLA is a CUV and the 2020 an SUV.

The ID.4 leans more towards CUV to me thanks to its rear-upper body sculpting, which is one of the more appealing aspects in my selection. And at 8.25" ground clearance it's right at the CUV->SUV tipping point. And it's more Macan-like in my analogy compared to the Tiguan. But I have no problem with it being designated an SUV given its rear interior volume.
What is everyone's differentiation between SUV and CUV? I always used the old school definition so SUVs are only vehicles based on a truck platform while CUVs are unibody platform (granted, "skateboard" EV platform doesn't fall in either category). Using that classification, there are very few SUVs remaining. Only the Expedition remains in Ford's lineup as an SUV, all their other "SUVs" are unibody including the Explorer.
 
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