Some European 1st Max come with DCC chassis control with adaptive dampers

emtonsti said:

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Some months back, possibly on Sep. 23 reservation day, someone was asking about DCC, yet another thing that some European 1st Max have. If VW ever brings the fully loaded ID.4 to the U.S. and If I like the ID.4, I see a model upgrade someday in my future. I really want a 1st Max! (even if maybe I cannot afford one)
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Well you could wait 25 years and then import one legally into the U.S. or you could move to Germany, post coronavirus, and buy one.

I have DCC on my 2019 GTI SE 6 spd manual. DCC does not have magnetic dampeners like Audi. I spoke with a VW engineer in person when viewing the ID.4 on 12-2-2020 and he stated that it was comfortable. There is a YouTube video of Tanner Foust, VW Race Car Driver, drifting a RWD around a track as well with OUR standard suspension setup.

As my screen name states, I’m hoping VW brings over a VW ID.R sports car... The ID.4 is a crossover SUV with a nice low engaging sitting position compared to say a Tesla Y. Because the resale value is ~$5,000 below Kelly Blue Book for my GTI due to Coronavirus , I’m keeping my GTI after getting my ID.4 AWD and will replace it with a VW ID.R roadster or Porsche EV roadster or some other affordable EV roadster in the future.

I know people state different things and have different opinions, but springs are meant to be paired with the appropriate shocks. Comfort shocks with sport springs is hella uncomfortable. Normal shocks with sport springs is also uncomfortable. There is too much up and down movement with a comfort or normal shock paired with a stiff sport spring. The most comfortable setting in my 2019 GTI with DCC is sport for everything except normal for “drivetrain”. If “drivetrain” is on sport there is too much herky-jerky motion when letting up on the throttle and depressing the clutch. My 2019 GTI with DCC in sport is faster than my previous 2017 GTI Sport with standard suspension, but it was more fun drifting around 90 degree turns with my 2017 GTI with the limited slip differential.

The AWD ID.4 will also put power to the wheels that need it. I’m glad it is standard suspension though. It’s a better choice for a family crossover SUV. More affordable and more comfortable. Plus if Bilstein, H&R or KW do come out with coilovers for the AWD ID.4, the standard coilovers will be much cheaper than their “DCC” coilovers would have been.

MBE said:

Your 2019 GTI is 5K below blue book value? I sold my 2018 GTI to Carmax for about 2K over bluebook in July. Was going to trade in for the ID.4 but used prices were so high (but getting softer) I sold it directly, as ID.4 not scheduled to arrive until November. I listed third party too of course but no takers.

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I haven’t looked into selling my GTI recently. It was back in October 2020. Tesla and Carmax offered $13,000 while a Porsche dealership offered $17,000. I would have taken $22,000 but not 17k and surely not 13k.

It is disgusting though how much used cars are now being sold for. When I do sell my GTI I will sell it privately on Autotrader. I don’t want a dealership to make $15,000 plus on my car offering as little as possible and then marking it up through the roof.

When I was recently at my local VW dealership for service there was an ID.4 in the showroom and about 10 on the lot. 98% of all the vehicles on the lot were SUVs. I found only one GTI on the lot, a used 2019 GTI and they had it listed at $32k. Crazy!

When I bought my 2019 GTI SE with DCC new it was about $38k and I got it down to $35k. I was recently interested in the BMW i4 M50 but the cost of options is crazy (with all the options in Germany it’s right under $100,000 Euro) I think I will hold off and wait to test drive the VW ID. Buzz, VW Space Vizzion/Aero B wagon and Audi A6 E-tron. According to the local Audi dealership they thought only 2 packages would be offered on the A6 E-tron so here would be no crazy price inflation through nickel and dimming of costly options.