[Mike02828]

I know this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to get a fresh updated take. With dealer inventories across all manufacturers at their lowest in a long time (we're talking days worth of inventory left), has this impacted pricing on ID4 purchases?

I'm on step 4 (slow boat from Germany) on my reserved ID4 Pro, and I'm wondering if my dealer is going to try and hit me with some ADM since they don't have many cars to sell, and every sale needs to count. What kind of deals has everyone got who has purchased their ID4 in the last week (or month)? This is my biggest worry right now. Something inside me just can't pay over MSRP.

 

[eb2143]

Corporate has said reservation holders cannot be charged over msrp and I believe emobility team intervened when some dealers attempted mark up. Again this is for reservations only

 

[Mike02828]

Corporate has said reservation holders cannot be charged over msrp and I believe emobility team intervened when some dealers attempted mark up. Again this is for reservations only

Where does this come from? Are there actual cases of this happening? If so, I'm wondering if this still applies in a short supply market.

 

[BuddyTheElf]

A little off topic from what you’re asking, but the low inventory is why I moved on my ID4 purchase a few weeks ago. My old car and my wife’s Ford could have died at any time and I was afraid that if that happened, I’d have to settle for whatever was left over in a Chevy or Toyota lot.

I drove by the Ford dealer near me while running To the store last weekend and the lot is sparse to say the least. This dealer for years had extra inventory parked in a lot across the street. This chip shortage will be causing havoc for a long time.

 

[Mike02828]

A little off topic from what you’re asking, but the low inventory is why I moved on my ID4 purchase a few weeks ago. My old car and my wife’s Ford could have died at any time and I was afraid that if that happened, I’d have to settle for whatever was left over in a Chevy or Toyota lot.

I drove by the Ford dealer near me while running To the store last weekend and the lot is sparse to say the least. This dealer for years had extra inventory parked in a lot across the street. This chip shortage will be causing havoc for a long time.

I know what you mean. It seems that some dealers have quite a few cars, while others are almost out. I've been to three different VW dealers in my area, and two are rather full while one has almost no cars. The dealer my ID4 will be delivered to seems to good with inventory.

Even if they can't charge ADM, they can add on other BS fees and refuse to negotiate them off as a means for more income. If I'm a dealer, every car has to count right now.

 

[mlsstl]

Check the "Dealer Shenanigans" thread. I recall there are some stories in there in which VW corporate stepped in to keep a dealer from screwing a reservation buyer.

 

[gorj]

I know this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to get a fresh updated take. With dealer inventories across all manufacturers at their lowest in a long time (we're talking days worth of inventory left), has this impacted pricing on ID4 purchases?

I'm on step 4 (slow boat from Germany) on my reserved ID4 Pro, and I'm wondering if my dealer is going to try and hit me with some ADM since they don't have many cars to sell, and every sale needs to count. What kind of deals has everyone got who has purchased their ID4 in the last week (or month)? This is my biggest worry right now. Something inside me just can't pay over MSRP.

When I ordered mine I got an out the door price at the time of the order. And that is what I paid six weeks ago when I took delivery.

 

[LieutenantLefse]

Corporate has said reservation holders cannot be charged over msrp and I believe emobility team intervened when some dealers attempted mark up. Again this is for reservations only

Technically the dealer can charge whatever they want, straight from the Terms & Conditions:

"02 Your Reservation and Order do NOT guarantee a set price for the Vehicle. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT DEALER SETS THE ACTUAL PRICE, WHICH MAY DIFFER FROM THE MSRP. The MSRP does not include taxes, title, transportation, other options and other dealer fees and charges."

But I do think corporate is pushing on dealers to honor MSRP for reservation holders. I went in prepared for a fight and ready to walk away if need be, but no need. My dealer didn't even attempt to add anything besides MSRP, dest, taxes, and $125 doc fee.

 

[Mike02828]

Technically the dealer can charge whatever they want, straight from the Terms & Conditions:

"02 Your Reservation and Order do NOT guarantee a set price for the Vehicle. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT DEALER SETS THE ACTUAL PRICE, WHICH MAY DIFFER FROM THE MSRP. The MSRP does not include taxes, title, transportation, other options and other dealer fees and charges."

But I do think corporate is pushing on dealers to honor MSRP for reservation holders. I went in prepared for a fight and ready to walk away if need be, but no need. My dealer didn't even attempt to add anything besides MSRP, dest, taxes, and $125 doc fee.

That's the deal I'm looking for in this crazy car market.

 

[Froggy]

My dealer tried to add a few of the standard packages, GAP insurance(I pointed out that I put $29K down), service package, wheel and tire insurance, etc but it was half hearted and in the end it was MSRP, delivery, sales tax, and document fee for the loan.
they can take you on an escalator ride if you don't plant your heels. First Edition with a reservation on the first day that they were available.

 

[NVJim]

My ID4 has left the factory but no word on shipping as yet. I am rather dreading the phase of finalizing with the dealer…have my current vehicle to sell/trade in to deal with also…going electric will be an adventure which I would prefer to begin without hassle.

 

[gorj]

My ID4 has left the factory but no word on shipping as yet. I am rather dreading the phase of finalizing with the dealer…have my current vehicle to sell/trade in to deal with also…going electric will be an adventure which I would prefer to begin without hassle.

It does not have to be a hassle. I made all the negotiations before I ever went to pick up my car. I sold my present car about two weeks before I picked up the VW. So I did not have the trade in hassle thing. The day I picked up the ID4 I went in, talked with my sales person, filled out some paperwork, got connected with Car-Net, and Electrify America, talked with the finance man, paid by check, told him I did not want any extended warranties or any extras on the car. Wrote a check. They gave me some paperwork. Went outside and they had someone install my tags, and shook hands with my salesperson and the sales manager and I was away. Will go back to the dealer next Monday for my Double Check service and a simple recall - a cover on the headlight adjuster.

 

[Tinman]

The sales manager (bad cop) at the "5-star dealer" reminded me several times that he could charge anything he wanted to and had others clamoring for the FE. Classy fella, I knew that and knew it was going to be an MSRP sale (or it would be no sale to me at all). All I was trying to do was get the lease deal published on the VW configurator. Eventually, I did. What a ridiculous way to do business.

 

[gorj]

The sales manager (bad cop) at the "5-star dealer" reminded me several times that he could charge anything he wanted to and had others clamoring for the FE. Classy fella, I knew that and knew it was going to be an MSRP sale (or it would be no sale to me at all). All I was trying to do was get the lease deal published on the VW configurator. Eventually, I did. What a ridiculous way to do business.

Generally, it has been my experience that car dealers are sleaze balls! I really like the model that Tesla and a few used car sellers have, where you go on line and order what you want and they bring it to your door. The order process for the ID4 was close to that but not quite there.

 

[Tinman]

The order process for the ID4 was close to that but not quite there.

That was the easy part. Once the car arrived at the dealer, the dealer had an incentive to run off reservation holders and try the market adjustment hustle. IIRC, VW allowed reservation holders to change dealers/cancel up to around the time the vehicle left the port. Those vehicles were not assigned to the dealer the reservation holder chose. After that, cancellations or refusals went into the chosen dealer's inventory. I can't think of any other way to do it, either. Well, an honest dealer who wants repeat customers, maybe. I walked in there with a checkbook expecting a fairly straightforward MSRP transaction.

The funny thing, soon after I bought mine on 3/18, a poster here related a pricing shenanigans nightmare experience from the local "3-star" dealer. The local dealer I didn't choose made me feel all warm and fuzzy about my crappy experience!

 

[fiehlsport]

Come up to the Northeast and grab one 1-2k under MSRP. Plentiful up here.

 

[Lxtruong]

Come up to the Northeast and grab one 1-2k under MSRP. Plentiful up here.

This varies so dramatically. My local VW has an ID.4 Pro (not S) priced for $2400 more than a First Edition on the lot ($49.8k vs $47.4k).

 

[RichV]

I know this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to get a fresh updated take. With dealer inventories across all manufacturers at their lowest in a long time (we're talking days worth of inventory left), has this impacted pricing on ID4 purchases?

I'm on step 4 (slow boat from Germany) on my reserved ID4 Pro, and I'm wondering if my dealer is going to try and hit me with some ADM since they don't have many cars to sell, and every sale needs to count. What kind of deals has everyone got who has purchased their ID4 in the last week (or month)? This is my biggest worry right now. Something inside me just can't pay over MSRP.

Took delivery of my ID.4 FE in Hawaii. Dealer price was MSRP (plus the usual added costs for registration, taxes, title, and transportation). I've never paid at, or above, MSRP before, but I didn't mind this time since I've been salivating over this car since VW announced it. As a side note, transportation from Germany to Hawaii was only $1200. Scored a $500 military discount, which effectively brought the final price below MSRP.