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My dealer sent an email this morning that they got their demo in, and I have a test drive scheduled for Thursday morning! Let me know if there's something you want me to check out.
I'm curious how the power button on the infotainment behaves. If you tap it, does the screen turn off fully, or go to a blank black screen with a clock or something? When you tap it, does music playing from a phone pause itself, or does it continue playing in the background (or does it get muted, but still keep playing regardless)? If you tap and hold the power button, does it do anything different?

I'm also curious if there's any type of "shortcut" way to get straight to Android Auto no matter where you currently are. In my Bolt, if I hold down the home button, it will launch directly into AA. My 2017 Golf Alltrack, however, doesn't have anything like that, and I have to go through the menus to get to AA every time. I'm not optimistic but maybe holding down on the square "home" button on the screen in the ID.4 could do that kind of functionality.

Sorry, I meant to ask just a really simple question about the power button but kinda vomited a bunch of extra thoughts lol.
 

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Theboomr asked about how the power button on the infotainment system functions. On my test drive this morning I tried it out. Tapping the power button appears to pause the system. Music is muted. I wasn't allowed to connect my phone via car play, so I could only go by satellite radio, which doesn't pause. Press and hold actually turns the system off, bringing up a black screen with a simple clock. I tried various combinations of double-tapping, tap-and-hold, etc. but basically it either pauses the system or shuts it off. I suspect that if you are playing something from your phone, the pausing will pause your music but I can't swear to it. The only thing really worth noting is that after being turned off, pressing the power again results in an instant on -there is no booting delay. I asked the salesperson about CarPlay and she didn't seem to understand what I was asking, but I believe you can switch easily between the VW and phone systems. Check out IDFurkan's YouTube channel, as he does a set-up of both phones.

As for the rest of the drive: My first impression was, "whoa, that's a big car!" Parked next to my Golf it does seem enormous, but the ID.4 is really only one foot longer, three inches wider, and seven inches taller. Getting inside for the first time I was struck by how comfortable the driver's seat was -I instantly felt right at home. The test drive course was a bit short for me, but it gave me a chance to do two busy streets, some hills, and a winding road. The ride and handling were outstanding. Acceleration was fine (ignore the Tesla fanboys). Braking was smooth. Steering was a pleasure. I left the course to park in a lot, and I'd swear the ID pivots on a dime. The turning radius is incredible! Everything on the car worked as advertised, with no lag in the infotainment system. One surprise was that the climate control has its own power button on one of the screens. I couldn't get the fan to blow fresh air -all the climate controls were grayed out. Then I saw a power symbol on the screen, and touched that, and everything came on. I hadn't heard anyone mention that before. Hands-free opening of the hatch worked the first time. Visibility was great in every direction. Side mirrors were larger and displayed far more than my Golf's do.

The only negative I found was that getting into the back seat required a bit of ducking (I'm 6'1"). Once I was in, it was fine. After all the reviews talking about how spacious the back was, maybe I had unrealistic expectations - I would expect two adults to be perfectly comfortable but three would be a pain.

Overall, I was very pleased with the car. It is a car for grown-ups. Smooth, easy to live with, and comfortable. Can't wait for mine to get here!
 

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I had a semi-surprise test drive this morning. I'm coming from an older ICE SUV. But I have driven a Tesla M3, Kona, and Niro. With that being said, I can't wait to get the car. I was comfortable with the seat and cabin. Acceleration wasn't zippy as the EVs I drove, but so what. It had more than enough juice to get me where I need to get. The back seat has much more space than the Kona and Niro. The brakes were a little "squishy" but nothing I couldn't get used to overtime. Regen in B mode was gentle, not 1st 2nd gearish like the Tesla. I am ok with coasting if it is more efficient. I don't care about one pedal driving.I didn't have enough time to play with the monitor but it looked good. The finishes didn't feel cheap (much better than the Kona or Niro), nor was it premium (get an Audi). Overall, it was just a pleasant driving experience and I cannot wait to have my own.
 

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I went to my preferred dealer today and ended up taking a quick test drive. I am 6'1" about 200lbs and I drive a '14 JSW as my daily driver and a BMW X5 as the family long distance hauler. It was 25dF and winds blowing in the 15-20mph range. As others have said, I found the ID.4 to be larger than I expected. Unlocking/locking car folded mirrors out/in, I would like to find a way to turn that off as I find it un-necessary and something more to go wrong over time. Large doors that swung open wide, I think the ID.4 is easiest car to get in and out of. No hitting knees on anything, just slide into the seat and you are there. No climbing up or settling down. I like it, it was what I was hoping for. View out front and sides was great. "A" pillar is large, but not any larger than any other car I have had in the last 15 years. At the other end, the large "C" pillar blocked a lot of view and I didn't feel comfortable backing the car into it's parking space. I suspect I could get comfortable after a bit of time, but not after a 15 minute test drive. Speaking of comfort, I found the front seats and the driving position VERY comfortable. I found it easy to adjust the seat and steering wheel to get in a comfortable position. Even my ankle position to the 'GO' pedal was very comfortable, again I think it was the most comfortable of any car I have ever driven. The mirrors are large and it was easy to get them adjusted to where I needed them, I can't in the Jetta. Leaving the traffic was moving about 45mph and was a bit of a bear getting out of the dealership and finally I found a small opening and floored it. Oh my, this car is no slouch. I found myself out in traffic and having to back off to keep from hitting the car in front of me. I felt it performed so well I might cancel my AWD version and stick with the RWD version. I ordered the AWD version for the performance and for snow here in Maine. But it looks like I am moving to Virginia in the fall and won't need the AWD for snow and after driving the RWD version, I don't need the extra performance that the AWD version offers. Driving was nothing spectacular, but this is a family car not a Ferrari. I found the steering very tight and responsive, almost too responsive for an old fart like me. Another thing to get use to, although it shouldn't take long. I tried the drivers assist and was very pleasantly surprised on how well it tracked in the lanes and kept it's distance to the car in front of me. I was UN-pleasantly surprised when the car in front of me stopped going into a roundabout. I expected the ID.4 to stop along with the car in front of me, but NO, at about 5 miles an hour, the car turned off the drivers assist, the car went straight and was no longer braking. I had to hit the brakes to keep from hitting the car in front of me and turn the wheel to stay in my lane. Won't try that again. I found the infotainment system to be laggy and some parts of it not intuitive at all. Never did find the screen that shows software version. Started out in "D" mode, felt very natural to me and I liked it. Tried the "B" mode. Found the regen stronger than I liked and I didn't like having to pay attention to where my foot was on the GO pedal all the time. I kept finding my self going slower and slower. I won't be using "B" mode. I am not so lazy I can't put my foot on the brake pedal. There was lots of wind noise in my Jetta driving up, but virtually no wind noise in the ID.4, which was very nice. On the other hand, there was a little tire noise in my Jetta from the winter snow tires, but in the ID.4 the tire noise was much more pronounced to the point of being annoying. I threw out brand new run flat tires from my BMW as they were so noisy, I really don't want to have to do that again with the ID.4. I had the front seat back to where I was comfortable, and then I climbed into the back seat. Very comfortable and tons of room, much more than my JSW and more than my X5. Then I discovered that the child safety locks were on and I couldn't open the rear doors from the inside. The salesman was inside on the phone and I had to crawl into the front seat to get out! OOPS
On a side note, as I was leaving the sales manage called me into his office and showed me on his computer that I had ignored emails from VW and I needed to lock in my order before today was over. It also showed that my interior configuration had been changed from Gray to Black. I explained to him that I had locked in my order and his dealership had my $400 deposit. He insisted my order was not locked in. I called VW CC when I got home and I was told that a) my order was locked in, b) the interior color issue was a known issue and would be fixed by next Wednesday. He then called the dealer and explained to them the issue. CC guy was going to call me by Wed to verify interior color issue was fixed. Lessen learned, dealer can track if you open your email or not. I use a browser that blocks any tracking code and that is why the dealer didn't see that I had read the message. Not sure why he couldn't see that the order was locked.
At this point I am still going to proceed with my AWD order but it might get changed to RWD before it is over.
I am sure I will think of something more to add later, but I have rambled on long enough for now.
 

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I went to my preferred dealer today and ended up taking a quick test drive. I am 6'1" about 200lbs and I drive a '14 JSW as my daily driver and a BMW X5 as the family long distance hauler. It was 25dF and winds blowing in the 15-20mph range. As others have said, I found the ID.4 to be larger than I expected. Unlocking/locking car folded mirrors out/in, I would like to find a way to turn that off as I find it un-necessary and something more to go wrong over time. Large doors that swung open wide, I think the ID.4 is easiest car to get in and out of. No hitting knees on anything, just slide into the seat and you are there. No climbing up or settling down. I like it, it was what I was hoping for. View out front and sides was great. "A" pillar is large, but not any larger than any other car I have had in the last 15 years. At the other end, the large "C" pillar blocked a lot of view and I didn't feel comfortable backing the car into it's parking space. I suspect I could get comfortable after a bit of time, but not after a 15 minute test drive. Speaking of comfort, I found the front seats and the driving position VERY comfortable. I found it easy to adjust the seat and steering wheel to get in a comfortable position. Even my ankle position to the 'GO' pedal was very comfortable, again I think it was the most comfortable of any car I have ever driven. The mirrors are large and it was easy to get them adjusted to where I needed them, I can't in the Jetta. Leaving the traffic was moving about 45mph and was a bit of a bear getting out of the dealership and finally I found a small opening and floored it. Oh my, this car is no slouch. I found myself out in traffic and having to back off to keep from hitting the car in front of me. I felt it performed so well I might cancel my AWD version and stick with the RWD version. I ordered the AWD version for the performance and for snow here in Maine. But it looks like I am moving to Virginia in the fall and won't need the AWD for snow and after driving the RWD version, I don't need the extra performance that the AWD version offers. Driving was nothing spectacular, but this is a family car not a Ferrari. I found the steering very tight and responsive, almost too responsive for an old fart like me. Another thing to get use to, although it shouldn't take long. I tried the drivers assist and was very pleasantly surprised on how well it tracked in the lanes and kept it's distance to the car in front of me. I was UN-pleasantly surprised when the car in front of me stopped going into a roundabout. I expected the ID.4 to stop along with the car in front of me, but NO, at about 5 miles an hour, the car turned off the drivers assist, the car went straight and was no longer braking. I had to hit the brakes to keep from hitting the car in front of me and turn the wheel to stay in my lane. Won't try that again. I found the infotainment system to be laggy and some parts of it not intuitive at all. Never did find the screen that shows software version. Started out in "D" mode, felt very natural to me and I liked it. Tried the "B" mode. Found the regen stronger than I liked and I didn't like having to pay attention to where my foot was on the GO pedal all the time. I kept finding my self going slower and slower. I won't be using "B" mode. I am not so lazy I can't put my foot on the brake pedal. There was lots of wind noise in my Jetta driving up, but virtually no wind noise in the ID.4, which was very nice. On the other hand, there was a little tire noise in my Jetta from the winter snow tires, but in the ID.4 the tire noise was much more pronounced to the point of being annoying. I threw out brand new run flat tires from my BMW as they were so noisy, I really don't want to have to do that again with the ID.4. I had the front seat back to where I was comfortable, and then I climbed into the back seat. Very comfortable and tons of room, much more than my JSW and more than my X5. Then I discovered that the child safety locks were on and I couldn't open the rear doors from the inside. The salesman was inside on the phone and I had to crawl into the front seat to get out! OOPS
On a side note, as I was leaving the sales manage called me into his office and showed me on his computer that I had ignored emails from VW and I needed to lock in my order before today was over. It also showed that my interior configuration had been changed from Gray to Black. I explained to him that I had locked in my order and his dealership had my $400 deposit. He insisted my order was not locked in. I called VW CC when I got home and I was told that a) my order was locked in, b) the interior color issue was a known issue and would be fixed by next Wednesday. He then called the dealer and explained to them the issue. CC guy was going to call me by Wed to verify interior color issue was fixed. Lessen learned, dealer can track if you open your email or not. I use a browser that blocks any tracking code and that is why the dealer didn't see that I had read the message. Not sure why he couldn't see that the order was locked.
At this point I am still going to proceed with my AWD order but it might get changed to RWD before it is over.
I am sure I will think of something more to add later, but I have rambled on long enough for now.
I didn't test out reverse and have never owned a car with a camera. Did the backup camera not help with confidence in backing into the parking space or is it a matter of learning to trust the camera as well?
 

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I didn't test out reverse and have never owned a car with a camera. Did the backup camera not help with confidence in backing into the parking space or is it a matter of learning to trust the camera as well?
The backup camera did help, but it has a wide angle lens and the edges are a bit distorted. It helped some, but it will take a little time to 'learn' what the camera is showing me. There are some guidance lines and it will also take some time correlate where the lines are with respect to what is actually there. Not insurmountable, but will take some time with it. I will be taking a longer, more detailed, test ride in another month or so. If I had to rate backup camera's at this point in time, my X5 is the best, then the JSW and then the ID.4. I suspect the ID.4 will move up if I spend more time with it.
 

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In my previous drive review comments I forgot to discuss my experience with the infotainment system. The good news, the 'controls' for the cabin temp and radio volume worked flawlessly. On the other hand, the actual infotainment screen was a disaster for me. I consider the "home" screen the one with the 8 icons, a swipe brings you to a screen with a map and 2 other 'windows', another swipe brings you to a third screen. I have no idea what was on that third screen as I was never able to get back to it, I only saw it one time. No amount of swiping gestering would get me back to it. Back at the Home Screen, if I pressed one of the icons to see something different, that screen and its functions seemed to work okay. When I pushed the 'home' button to return to the Home Screen, sometimes it took me to the 'home' screen with the 8 icons, sometimes it took me to the screen with the map and I had to hit the home button again to get to the home screen. I am not sure what I did, but when I turned on the heated driver seat, the radio muted!!?? I went to the radio screen to see what was happening and a message came up saying some controls were disabled while driving. What radio controls get disabled while driving?? I hit the home button, went back to the map page, hit the home button again and went to the home page. Found just turning the volume back up got the radio back. On to the nav screen. I tried to zoom in, no go, tried to zoom out, no go, tried to pan screen to the right, no go. But in all that I did manage to change the screen from north up, to track up, to screen frozen and the icon for the vehicle just followed the road off the screen as I was driving. Not sure what I did but I finally managed to get the nav screen back to track up with a reasonable zoom level. When I got close enough to the dealership that it came up on the screen. I touched the name, the address popped up and I told it to navigate to the dealership and it did a good job at that. I was only about to swipe the Home Screen up to see the other 4 icons one time, never was able to get back there again so I don't know what those icons were. I never was able to find the screen that showed what software version the car was on. I don't know if it was me, or the car, but all in all I found the infotainment system an unmitigated disaster and totally unacceptable.
The dealer is getting in another car next week and I will go back to see if its infotainment system works any better for me. Also to spend some time trying to back the car into parking spaces to see if I can get comfortable with that. If I can't sort out these two issues, then this car is a no go for me, as much as I like everything else about it.
 

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Theboomr asked about how the power button on the infotainment system functions. On my test drive this morning I tried it out. Tapping the power button appears to pause the system. Music is muted. I wasn't allowed to connect my phone via car play, so I could only go by satellite radio, which doesn't pause. Press and hold actually turns the system off, bringing up a black screen with a simple clock. I tried various combinations of double-tapping, tap-and-hold, etc. but basically it either pauses the system or shuts it off. I suspect that if you are playing something from your phone, the pausing will pause your music but I can't swear to it. The only thing really worth noting is that after being turned off, pressing the power again results in an instant on -there is no booting delay. I asked the salesperson about CarPlay and she didn't seem to understand what I was asking, but I believe you can switch easily between the VW and phone systems. Check out IDFurkan's YouTube channel, as he does a set-up of both phones.

As for the rest of the drive: My first impression was, "whoa, that's a big car!" Parked next to my Golf it does seem enormous, but the ID.4 is really only one foot longer, three inches wider, and seven inches taller. Getting inside for the first time I was struck by how comfortable the driver's seat was -I instantly felt right at home. The test drive course was a bit short for me, but it gave me a chance to do two busy streets, some hills, and a winding road. The ride and handling were outstanding. Acceleration was fine (ignore the Tesla fanboys). Braking was smooth. Steering was a pleasure. I left the course to park in a lot, and I'd swear the ID pivots on a dime. The turning radius is incredible! Everything on the car worked as advertised, with no lag in the infotainment system. One surprise was that the climate control has its own power button on one of the screens. I couldn't get the fan to blow fresh air -all the climate controls were grayed out. Then I saw a power symbol on the screen, and touched that, and everything came on. I hadn't heard anyone mention that before. Hands-free opening of the hatch worked the first time. Visibility was great in every direction. Side mirrors were larger and displayed far more than my Golf's do.

The only negative I found was that getting into the back seat required a bit of ducking (I'm 6'1"). Once I was in, it was fine. After all the reviews talking about how spacious the back was, maybe I had unrealistic expectations - I would expect two adults to be perfectly comfortable but three would be a pain.

Overall, I was very pleased with the car. It is a car for grown-ups. Smooth, easy to live with, and comfortable. Can't wait for mine to get here!
I'm 6'7'' and my brother is 6'9'' no problem seating behind even with 6'7'' driver in the front.
Getting in and out was much better than biggest VW SUV ....so no problem for tall men.
 
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