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This particular adapter seems to be positioned for the destination charger market. It's Gen 2 design doesn't support wi-fi so doesn't compete with wi-fi enabled competitors (e.g. ChargePoint Home Flex, JuiceBox, or even Tesla's own Gen 3 EVSE). At $415 it isn't competitive on price either. I suppose if one really likes Tesla's design aesthetic and/or walled garden app experience it might be the ticket but, even then, why not just get the more capable Gen 3 Tesla EVSE and a TeslaTap?
 

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I’m absolutely not finding another thread on this.
 

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This particular adapter seems to be positioned for the destination charger market. It's Gen 2 design doesn't support wi-fi so doesn't compete with wi-fi enabled competitors (e.g. ChargePoint Home Flex, JuiceBox, or even Tesla's own Gen 3 EVSE). At $415 it isn't competitive on price either. I suppose if one really likes Tesla's design aesthetic and/or walled garden app experience it might be the ticket but, even then, why not just get the more capable Gen 3 Tesla EVSE and a TeslaTap?
Maybe about 5 Benjamins?
 

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This particular adapter seems to be positioned for the destination charger market. It's Gen 2 design doesn't support wi-fi so doesn't compete with wi-fi enabled competitors (e.g. ChargePoint Home Flex, JuiceBox, or even Tesla's own Gen 3 EVSE). At $415 it isn't competitive on price either. I suppose if one really likes Tesla's design aesthetic and/or walled garden app experience it might be the ticket but, even then, why not just get the more capable Gen 3 Tesla EVSE and a TeslaTap?
$415 isn’t price competitive for a 40 amp L2 EVSE? How much are Grizzl-E and ClipperCreek 40 amp units?
 

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$415 isn’t price competitive for a 40 amp L2 EVSE? How much are Grizzl-E and ClipperCreek 40 amp units?
Not competive compared to the goplug 32 smart charger at $399 with wifi and a decent app. I like being able to access it from any web browser (no app needed) to control all the main functions like look at charge rate, on/off, scheduled charge, etc. At 7.6kw its good to charge from 0% to full in 10 hours, and I can take it mobile.

Edit: I just got mine, and as a software engineer as soon as I paired it to my wifi, opened it in my browser and put it into advanced mode and found this fun feature for me!
Dynamically adjust charge rate based on solar PV generation or excess power (grid export).
I will be studying this feature for both my house solar and my solar trailer.
 

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Was going to get the goplug 32 smart charger but went with the refurbished 40 for $449. I reached out to them to see about bundleing the extra plug adapters with it and got an additional discount.
 

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Not competive compared to the goplug 32 smart charger at $399 with wifi and a decent app. I like being able to access it from any web browser (no app needed) to control all the main functions like look at charge rate, on/off, scheduled charge, etc. At 7.6kw its good to charge from 0% to full in 10 hours, and I can take it mobile.

Edit: I just got mine, and as a software engineer as soon as I paired it to my wifi, opened it in my browser and put it into advanced mode and found this fun feature for me!
Dynamically adjust charge rate based on solar PV generation or excess power (grid export).
I will be studying this feature for both my house solar and my solar trailer.
Open EVSE is much better if you have knowledge with software and you can build it yourself.... if you choose right it will be hard to buy anything else.
 

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Open EVSE is much better if you have knowledge with software and you can build it yourself
The goplug smart charger looks like an exact copy of the Open EVSE, it has the same hardware, display and the same code for the browser based method to do all the settings. And the same open remote API. Even though I have built lots of more complex electronics than this, I like goplug better since its already assembled with a 3 year warranty instead of 1 year, and a lower price. Goplug also has much better strain relief on the cables. What is it that you think is much better?
 

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If you are interested for pid dump for ID4 and your spare project to make dedicated app for ID4....i will be more than happy to send you a lot of PIDs that are going to be very helpful to owners that like this type of data.
My only advice if you go this route.....go similar approach what Tesla obd2 app is doing.....it is much quicker and will not overload traffic on the ID4 networking side.
The goplug smart charger looks like an exact copy of the Open EVSE, it has the same hardware, display and the same code for the browser based method to do all the settings. And the same open remote API. Even though I have built lots of more complex electronics than this, I like goplug better since its already assembled with a 3 year warranty instead of 1 year, and a lower price. Goplug also has much better strain relief on the cables. What is it that you think is much better?
I source parts all over ...you don't have to buy entire kit from them...and build one of the kind EVSE the way you want.
My is still in Frankenstein status.....but my recent visit back to my country helped me get some hard to get parts here in US.
And regarding warranty.....my setup will be overkill even for EV capable pulling 80A
 

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If you are interested for pid dump for ID4 and your spare project to make dedicated app for ID4....i will be more than happy to send you a lot of PIDs that are going to be very helpful to owners that like this type of data.
Yes please send this PID dump. If I ever get my ID.4 I will make better apps for everyone here and better info available than anything we've got now. I know how to avoid overloading the canbus.

One of a kind is not an advantage to me, I would rather have the same as 20,000 others if it does what I want. The goplug and openevse both do this without any hardware changes. The software side does need more work, and the open API lets me and many others do this. I will get my "hobbyist fun" from the software/firmware side instead of with a soldering iron.
 

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Yes please send this PID dump. If I ever get my ID.4 I will make better apps for everyone here and better info available than anything we've got now. I know how to avoid overloading the canbus.

One of a kind is not an advantage to me, I would rather have the same as 20,000 others if it does what I want. The goplug and openevse both do this without any hardware changes. The software side does need more work, and the open API lets me and many others do this. I will get my "hobbyist fun" from the software/firmware side instead of with a soldering iron.
I will....let me get all necessary headers and pids
Example header ATSH17FC0076 or you want different type example 17 FC 00 76 command line. my personal laptop is not at my work place...but once I get it I will send you necessary pids.
There will be 3 pids for battery SOH
 

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Open EVSE is much better if you have knowledge with software and you can build it yourself.... if you choose right it will be hard to buy anything else.
We partnered with OpenEVSE and early Goplugs were built by them. We would like to build standards-based commercial EV chargers because we believe that's better than doing something completely proprietary. While open hardware and open source have their place, we believe that ultimately the important conversations that will take place in the future will be about interoperability and integration. Happy to work on anything that you believe needs improvement. However, we have diverged from our OpenEVSE roots and are heading in a slightly different direction.
 
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