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Didn't fat e-tron have a port on both front flanks? etron is also a VAG product, but no rear charge port. That changed for the Q4.
At least the Audi dealer chargers can be in the same spot - just a matter of pulling forwards for etron and backwards for Q4.

The cheapest EV's have their charge port essentially forward of the windshield. But they're also FWD so the equipment is all up front. Meanwhile, all ID.4's have a rear motor, but only some have a front motor. I would expect the motor and charger to be near each other. It's a pity, without a frunk there's less worry about packaging, and it would have helped weight distribution - especially for the RWD models. Cest la vie.

Coming from a Bolt, I would have preferred the etron location (drivers front fender). Other people drive my car and it isn't plugged in every time, I haven't noticed an obvious indicator that the car is attached, so the port on the Bolt was nice and obvious. At least you can't drive off accidentally. And it's only been a few times where I've jumped in to go and had to hop out to disconnect.

But as to the original point, this is minutes of my life each week. I have to live with the interior every minute I'm in the car (and to a lesser extent, live with the controls) :-(.
 

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That makes good sense. Thankyou for the historical reasoning for the filler location on most (if not all) German ICEVs. Begs the question if their EVs are still going to "fill up" from roadside fast chargers? :unsure:
I remember reading years ago about chargers in city locations beside parallel parking, so curb side would have been useful.
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But it's pretty uncommon. And I really hope wireless charging eventually fulfills that need.
 

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Agree!

Backing up into cross traffic may be illegal depending on you local regulations, it is where I live. And there's an increased risk of at fault collision.
I reckon this is very regional. We have areas that have both requirements. One place (only one I know of) has angle parking where you are required to back in. Some people are comically bad at it. We have other lots that specify "Nose in parking only" - these tend to be tighter lots. But these are private rules set by the lot, not by law. Conversely, our local Costco has spaces so big you can pretty much open the door 100% and not hit the car next to you. You could probably park an Abrams tank within the lines at Costco.

I don't think it's controversial to say that the average driver can more easily pull in forwards to perpendicular spots. Reversing into a defined/confined space is not so easy for some. I'm not aware of any locality near me that forbids reversing out of a parking space. Most lots are on private property, and most street parking is parallel.
 

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We are talking about comparable SUV to id.4, in terms of prices/features, none of those options are workable. They are either small and/or no AWD or simply more money.
"We" aren't. You are. I expect there will be some that share your desired specs, but by no means all. The person you responded to didn't mention SUV or AWD. I did not want an SUV, but there are zero EV wagons on offer so I had to uncheck that box (among others). I bought the ID.4, so I like it enough to plonk down my moneys, but I'm no fanboy. It was a close race between the ID.4 and the IONIQ5, and the ID.4 arrived first. The ID.4 has lower specs, but cost a little less and was available first. Had Tesla offered a hitch on the Model 3 that would have been on my list too.

The Mach-e costs less, has AWD, and is an SUV. The Solterra costs less, has AWD, and is an SUV. And there are quite a few people here without AWD in their ID.4's.

BTW, the car in your sig is over $50k. About $52,590 if I did it right.
 
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