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Not to mention a Tesla is using the 150kw positionI don't think any member of the forum will take a 350kW if a 150kW is also available.
However, if a 350kW is the only one open when I am ready, I am taking it. Sue me.
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every Rivian I've seen at an EA site has had the owner connectto a 150 despite the 350 open and the truck either coldgating or rapidgating. With kW in the 30's at 15%SOC, by example. Funniest one was seeing a Bolt connected at the CHADEMO/CCS, getting 38kW, while the Rivian after 55 minutes & at 46%SOC was getting 31kW (with an ETD of another hour for the Rivian).
There needs to be a Dr. Rick ( from the Progressive Commercials) for new EV owners.
There needs to be a Dr. Rick ( from the Progressive Commercials) for new EV owners.
adjust playback speed to 2x. gets it over with in 1/2 the time. honestly it is what I do.
170 kW is the stated maximum charging capability but as users have noted here, it can go higher . I've heard some people reaching 190 kW charging speeds. It also very much depends on the types of cables used on these chargers, if they're not the right specs, a 150 kW charger might never get higher than 75 or 80 kW for even a '23 ID.4. I've hit 168 kW that I've seen but wasn't looking the whole time so it could have been higher. If it's rated fro 170, then there should not be discrimination for using a 350 kW charger. With that said, EV education is very important and many people seemingly do not understand the difference between charger ratings and vehicle capabilities. BUT - calling out all ID.4 owners is not an OK thing to do. I also was very influenced by Kyle's videos on the ID.4 -- particularly his video on driving the '23 AWD in the snow convinced me to get that over the RWD and he's multiple times noted that this car is one of the better builds and that it's a great car. Still not okay to seemingly group people together. I've met I5 owners who had no idea that DCFC every day was not great for the long-term care of their battery, but some that are really knowledgeable. There are also a lot of Tesla owners that are dicks online, but many I've met in person that are really kind people. And if history can tell us anything, grouping people together has certainly never really lead to positive things.
It's interesting to see how Kyle's videos have evolved over the past few years. He began providing very informative and useful information quite efficiently. For some reason he began to test more and more hi end vehicles. Honestly, I stopped watching. Some months ago he must have noticed the drop off of clicks, and announced that he would spend more time on issues and evaluations for those vehicles people could actually afford. Not sure how that worked out.....
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You are right! Some of us do have 150kW+ capability! In fact I do too since changing the car two weeks ago.
So I guess they can double sue me! 🤣🤣
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Has everyone here seen this post?
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Not sure that this will answer our questions,but: Here is a link to the VW Ireland site with a calculator that demonstrates the effect of temperature and starting SOC on the charging rate. Charge Simulator | E-Mobility Tools | Volkswagen Ireland
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Yes. That is exactly it. Believe it or not, most owners of any brand are not on their respective auto forums. EV owners that are not enthusiasts will learn the ins and outs, it will just take them longer.
To be fair, Kyle did just start new videos focusing on the basics of EVs with each brand to inform the public more, but it has to carry across to all platforms.
EDIT: it's like being really nice to someone who you think has the ability to decide whether or not they hire you in an interview but then being nasty to the front desk person
EDIT: it's like being really nice to someone who you think has the ability to decide whether or not they hire you in an interview but then being nasty to the front desk person
The only thing I'll add is that the "don't use 350s" guidance is becoming increasingly obsolete as Electrify America replaces many of the 150s with 350s (or doesn't install 150s at all, like at its two newest sites in Alabama), leaving at most just one 150 kW charger per site that's shared with CHAdeMO.
Not tying up the CHAdeMO, so you don't strand a Leaf, is much more critical than some EV6 owner (assuming they're not "Coldgated") having to spend another 5-10 minutes in a Walmart parking lot IMHO.
Not tying up the CHAdeMO, so you don't strand a Leaf, is much more critical than some EV6 owner (assuming they're not "Coldgated") having to spend another 5-10 minutes in a Walmart parking lot IMHO.
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It's simple for YouTubers the ID4 is not 'cool' anymore. It was there in 2021/22 and was good but had problems whatever they were. Now they moved on to new cool toys that most people cannot afford. It is all about storytelling and staying relevant. If you buy a new expensive EV you don't want Youtubers tell you another car that existed before is good too. Instant gratification and entitlement. In the end it is about getting clicks and likes.
Same here. 2023 with SK battery, I've hit 184 kW initially, then over 150 kW for a while.
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I think that's a big part of it... like the Bolt is the most affordable compact EV, the ID.4 is the most affordable crossover EV... therefore they get bought by more people who aren't "in the know" (read forums, watch YouTube videos, etc) and those "in the know" can look down their noses at the "great unwashed" ...
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These technicalities scare off the non technical EV adopters which is the majority of the population. It will take time for EA to upgrade their charger hardware as the 800 number person told me when I called to report them broken. Then we have to wait for VW to improve their software such as battery heating before charge and unless we have OTA, then wait for the dealers to do the updates which the poll only shows at 9%.
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Really we are waiting for VW to open the door a little further. Until that happens, we won't see all that much movement. I think some folks are reluctant to have it done even though they are eligible for the recall.
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I think the ID.4 will remain attractive this month and next month as it is the only crossover EV in its class/size/price that qualifies for the full incentive. Sure, Model Y is $54,000, but you can get ID.4 Pro RWDs at dealerships now, too. Also, not everyone wants a Tesla. A lot of people want to avoid a car that stands out.
Kyle and Branden both made their channels on the back of the ID.4, now they are likely getting sponsorships from other brands and VW (as far as I can tell) doesn't pay for influencer marketing, so suddenly the ID.4 sucks ass. Take anything you hear on monetized YouTube channel with a grain of salt. Maybe an entire salt lick.
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Alex Guberman was paid.
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It's all about subscriber dollars. Post a positive video on X and you get comments and subscribers. Post a negative video on the same X and you get more comments and subscribers. Then post a helpful "how X works" video and you get more comments and subscribers.
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