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Lane Keep Assist defaults to ON at every “start”. You can disable it, but only while the car is not in motion. And at start up it takes a minute or more for this config screen to even become accessible.

I hate loathe detest and despise Lane Assist. Sometimes it tries to vigorously pull the steering wheel out of my hands for incorrect reasons. I want it to default to Off, not On.

I’ve poked around with VCDS and don’t see a way to change this behavior.

Anyone know how to set this feature with VCDS to default to OFF? I thank you in advance. :)
 

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I don't like it myself. I have it disabled on my RAV4 and it stays that way. I wish I could do that on the ID
 

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Describe the issue? I test drove an FE a couple months ago and didn't notice anything. Is this when adaptive cruise control is engaged?
 

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Describe the issue? I test drove an FE a couple months ago and didn't notice anything. Is this when adaptive cruise control is engaged?
It happens when you change lanes without signaling. It tries to keep you from crossing painted lane markings. It can be disabled, but as VW Dave said, it is a process.
 

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Lane Assist defaults to ON at every “start”. You can disable it, but only while the car is not in motion. And at start up it takes a minute or more for this config screen to even become accessible.

I hate loathe detest and despise Lane Centering Assist. Sometimes it tries to vigorously pull the steering wheel out of my hands for incorrect reasons. I want it to default to Off, not On.

I’ve poked around with VCDS and don’t see a way to change this behavior.

Anyone know how to set this feature with VCDS to default to OFF? I thank you in advance. :).
Are you talking about factory scanner or aftermarket?
 

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It happens when you change lanes without signaling. It tries to keep you from crossing painted lane markings. It can be disabled, but as VW Dave said, it is a process.
If that were all it did I’d be more ok with it. I‘ll give an example. On my way home from downtown the main road forks into 2 roads. The striping on the left continues straight but there’s no striping on the right where the fork is. The car wants to forcefully keep me to the left when I want to veer right. A similar thing happens merging from the fwy off ramp onto the main road. In short the car makes incorrect assumptions about lane merges and again forcefully tugs on the steering when there is no need to. It’s almost alarming sometime. I’m where I want and need to be but the car tries to make lane corrections anyway.

Driving on a winding 2-lane state Hwy through the mountains, lane centering is constantly tugging and nudging the wheel because it thinks I’m not positioned correctly in my lane.

This feature could be disabled on my previous vehicles including VWs and it would remain disabled. But it’s re-enabled on the ID.4 at every “start”. Sometimes I have to wait nearly a minute to finally get to the screen where it can be disabled after “starting” the car due to infotainment system lag. And the car has to be stopped to change it.

I want this feature to remain disabled when I disable it. Help me VCDS.
 

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Lane Centering Assist defaults to ON at every “start”.
Just to be clear, Lane Assist is the feature that defaults to on. Lane Assist tries to keep you in the lane, but it doesn't try to center you in the lane.
 

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I too am not a fan of Lane Assist. On my FE, lane assist comes on whenever I choose to apply ACC. As srpylo has stated, "Lane Assist tries to keep you in the lane, but doesn't center you in the lane". That's all fine and dandy, but sometimes I fell like a ping-pong ball as the car drifts to the left and then corrects "too much" to the right. It then corrects itself again by overcorrecting to the left. VOA: if you're reading this, why can't you program Lane Assist to stay centered in the lane. I know this is doable because I frequently get a warning on the driver's screen to "move back to the center of the lane". Evidently, the program already knows where the so called "center of the lane" is located. Make it so.
 

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I modified the OP's heading/text so we don't mislead other members. Let's be reminded that it's a lane keep assist, not a lane centering assist. As such it's only as good as the center & edge lines on a given roadway and does get confused at times by sudden changes from single-to-double travel lanes. But I'm pretty used to it at this point and anticipate same.

Sometimes it's a bit irritating for me as well, however I leave it enabled as I figure there just may be that one time where it saves the day.

The workaround is to use your directional signals more, which we should all do anyway, which temporarily disables the monitoring.

VW Dave: I realize you're trying to emphasize this one element, but we do already have an extensive 'stickied' thread: To VW: Changes we would like to see in the ID.4
 

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I’ve poked around with VCDS and don’t see a way to change this behavior.

Anyone know how to set this feature with VCDS to default to OFF? I thank you in advance. :)
Please email a complete plain-text AutoScan to [email protected] since we have an experimental coding you may want to try.
 

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I don't have a dog in this fight without a car but for accuracy it is Lane Keep Assist (LKA) vs. Travel Assist. And perhaps people are just not used to it as the steering correction is to keep the car from crossing a lane marker, not actively steer it in a different direction.
 

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I don't have a dog in this fight without a car but for accuracy it is Lane Keep Assist (LKA) vs. Travel Assist. And perhaps people are just not used to it as the steering correction is to keep the car from crossing a lane marker, not actively steer it in a different direction.
Yes, but as VW Dave stated, there are times when it tries to fight you from where you want to go, such as a fork in the road, or an exit ramp if you are not signaling.
 

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Please email a complete plain-text AutoScan to [email protected] since we have an experimental coding you may want to try.
I'll get on that, maybe today. Thank you!

I should get some photos to illustrate common local driving situations that confound the system. And yes in addition to inappropriate jerkiing on the steering wheel that makes me look like a drunk or distracted driver it also unnecessarily nags me to keep in the center of my lane sometimes. I hate this feature so much I probably wouldn't have bought the car if I'd realized it can't be disabled and be used only on demand.
 

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I used the proper LKA term on another website but I guess got lazy here. 🤦‍♂️ Now corrected. Thanks.

I don't have a dog in this fight without a car but for accuracy it is Lane Keep Assist (LKA) vs. Travel Assist. And perhaps people are just not used to it as the steering correction is to keep the car from crossing a lane marker, not actively steer it in a different direction.
 

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You could just, I dunno... Use your turn signal.
I've had multiple late-model VWs and Audis (yes I have a problem) that had this feature and all allowed it to be enabled or disabled at will by the driver, on the fly at any time, on demand. The ID.4 is the first vehicle in my experience that insists on defaulting this feature to Enabled. And if the car is "asleep" it can take up to a minute to get to the screen where you can disable it, and only if the car isn't in motion.
 

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This is a top priority of mine as well. In the end, I think VW will wind up getting sued if they don't allow this to be turned off and left off. Someone who isn't an attentive driver, or comfortable getting aggressive steering, is going to get pushed into traffic or off the road and hurt or worse.

I've beat this drum a lot, but this thing is dangerous, at least here in the US. The lane markings just aren't there for it to work correctly. I turn it off every time, but in the few times I haven't it's tried to push me off the road twice and into an oncoming car twice. Yes, it's steered me into an oncoming car twice. Every time I've had to fight it to get it to do what I want.

No, it's not a "just use your turn signal" thing. It'll grab longitudinal expansion joints thinking they're lane markers and steer you wrong - right over the faded lane markers! I don't use turn signals for expansion joints. Sorry. Twice I've had it just steer me wrong for no discernable reason. No shadows, no color changes in the pavement - nothing.

No, it's not "it's easy to overpower it." It's not. I steer with a very light touch. I can overpower it, but to do so means I have to use what I would describe as an emergency-type strength. I shouldn't face emergency situations because of an active feature in my car. Ever.

Maybe you've had good luck. That's great - that means the lane markings where you drive are done correctly. They're not even close where I live. Welcome to Texas.

I would love for this feature to be usable. I would love to be able to leave it on. But it's dangerous as implemented.

I should note that my previous car, a 2018 Accord Hybrid, also had this feature. In fact, I'm 90% certain that the software and hardware is from the same company VW is using. The point is, that system made the same errors. The big difference - I could turn it off after it became obvious that it was dangerous. With a hardware button, no less!
 
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