It's being discussed in the larger "Embargo Lifted" thread.
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The Volkswagen ID.4 Is A Disappointing Electric Car | Engineering Explained
Engineering Explained gave his take on the ID.4 that's helpful unlike others we've seen so far.
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I didn't feel like anything he said about EA was that informative. But I am saying that based on the numerous comments made various threads about EAs charging infrastructure not being up to snuff when compared to Tesla. With that being said, there is an expectation that EA will have to step its game up, especially with the ID4 being released.
He did raise some very valid points but I'm also willing to give VW/EA a little leeway when it comes to ONE CHARGER in the network having issues. It would be like if I went to Costco to get gas and one of the pumps was down and then recorded a video on how all Costco gas stations are terrible and that they need to fix everything right away.
To do both, VW and Electrify America justice, the plug and charge protocol was just ratified late last year. I am really surprised the Mach E already supports it. However, that vehicle has had other nasty surprises regarding communication with EA chargers and then charged at extremely low speeds.
I suppose the lesson is: It is still early days for easy and reliable non-Tesla DC fast charging, and thank god for OTA updates on both ends.
I suppose the lesson is: It is still early days for easy and reliable non-Tesla DC fast charging, and thank god for OTA updates on both ends.
Alex on Autos bought a Mach E, and he says his production version model doesn‘t have the charging issues that other reviewers experienced with their press cars. Hopefully production version ID.4s will have charging and infotainment issues ironed out. My 10 Complaints With The Mach E
That's what I thought when watching his video. Give it time... a network built to support every possible model of car might not be as feature-complete. Certainly that's a benefit of vertical integration, but his entire video seemed hyper-focused on what a current Tesla owner would miss by switching to the ID.4.To do both, VW and Electrify America justice, the plug and charge protocol was just ratified late last year. I am really surprised the Mach E already supports it. However, that vehicle has had other nasty surprises regarding communication with EA chargers and then charged at extremely low speeds.
I suppose the lesson is: It is still early days for easy and reliable non-Tesla DC fast charging, and thank god for OTA updates on both ends.
I won't dispute that the things he pointed out wouldn't mostly be improvements (especially as options), but VW has always stated they're looking to convert ICE drivers. And as one of those drivers, the "issues" he spent a lot of time on... aren't issues for me. Sure, maybe they are missed opportunities for improvement from my current situation, but they're not downgrades (and can mostly be fixed with updates).
I really think VW has failed in their messaging for this car, but I also found the EE video to be a "disappointing EV review (for now)". It's fair to call out negative points, but if your review only focuses on those (some more about the network than the car), misses many positive comparisons, and/or is an outlier vs. the consensus, maybe the problem is with the reviewer understanding the vehicle.
Regarding updating software to enable "Plug & Charge" charging at EA, Jason of Engineering Explained said in his YouTube comments section: "I asked VW and they said later (Fall) in 2021.".
I actually contacted VW a little while back about that and they said the same. Fall 2021 OTA Update will enable this.Regarding updating software to enable "Plug & Charge" charging at EA, Jason of Engineering Explained said in his YouTube comments section: "I asked VW and they said later (Fall) in 2021.".
Being Engineering Explained, and having watched many of his other videos, I was disappointed to see what really was more of a car review than anything else, especially since most of his complaints hopefully will be fixed with software updates.
I would loved to have seen him actually discuss VW's claims that the coasting in D mode is actually more efficient than the immediate regen of B mode. It makes sense to me, but I would like to have seen the engineer in Jason weigh in on it.
I was also disappointed in his comment that "There is no way to unroll all 4 windows at once." We know that at least the European cars can unroll all windows by press and holding the "Rear" selector until it flashes. I've been anxiously awaiting a US reviewer to use this feature to see if it changed in the US implementation. (I know we have different rules on automatic windows than our European brethren)
I would loved to have seen him actually discuss VW's claims that the coasting in D mode is actually more efficient than the immediate regen of B mode. It makes sense to me, but I would like to have seen the engineer in Jason weigh in on it.
I was also disappointed in his comment that "There is no way to unroll all 4 windows at once." We know that at least the European cars can unroll all windows by press and holding the "Rear" selector until it flashes. I've been anxiously awaiting a US reviewer to use this feature to see if it changed in the US implementation. (I know we have different rules on automatic windows than our European brethren)
Having just done the test drive, I can confirm that the method suggested by Trunkenbold for rolling down all 4 windows simultaneously does work. More impressions in a separate thread where, hopefully, we can all collect and compare our impressions.Being Engineering Explained, and having watched many of his other videos, I was disappointed to see what really was more of a car review than anything else, especially since most of his complaints hopefully will be fixed with software updates.
I would loved to have seen him actually discuss VW's claims that the coasting in D mode is actually more efficient than the immediate regen of B mode. It makes sense to me, but I would like to have seen the engineer in Jason weigh in on it.
I was also disappointed in his comment that "There is no way to unroll all 4 windows at once." We know that at least the European cars can unroll all windows by press and holding the "Rear" selector until it flashes. I've been anxiously awaiting a US reviewer to use this feature to see if it changed in the US implementation. (I know we have different rules on automatic windows than our European brethren)
I saw one review of a U.S. car where they tested this, so I'm glad to see you confirm it. Did the auto-down/auto-up feature work when controlling all 4 windows? I assume it does, since I think every VW has auto-up/auto-down on all four windows with separate switches (something that I really appreciate, since it's super uncommon among manufacturers, even in 2021).Having just done the test drive, I can confirm that the method suggested by Trunkenbold for rolling down all 4 windows simultaneously does work. More impressions in a separate thread where, hopefully, we can all collect and compare our impressions.
Yes, it worked rolling down all four windows simultaneously. Once you've pressed the "rear" button until it blinks, just push down the two controllers for (normally) the front windows and all four roll down.I saw one review of a U.S. car where they tested this, so I'm glad to see you confirm it. Did the auto-down/auto-up feature work when controlling all 4 windows? I assume it does, since I think every VW has auto-up/auto-down on all four windows with separate switches (something that I really appreciate, since it's super uncommon among manufacturers, even in 2021).
I wonder if there is a similar "simple" button push or key press to roll all windows up when you are locking/leaving the vehicle.Yes, it worked rolling down all four windows simultaneously. Once you've pressed the "rear" button until it blinks, just push down the two controllers for (normally) the front windows and all four roll down.
With the "rear" button blinking, pulling up on the levers rolled up all at the same time, if that's what you're asking. If you want it to happen as a result of leaving or locking, I didn't try either.I wonder if there is a similar "simple" button push or key press to roll all windows up when you are locking/leaving the vehicle.
On my last couple VWs (Tiguan and Jettas), if you keep holding the lock button on the remote, or touching the lock portion of the door handle the windows (and sunroof) close. I would assume the ID.4 will do the same, but you know what they say about assuming...
On current VWs with keyless entry, a long press on the exterior handle when locking the car will close all windows and sunroof.I wonder if there is a similar "simple" button push or key press to roll all windows up when you are locking/leaving the vehicle.
Here's another review from the same car.
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I’m tempering this somewhat because, although early production is ramping up, I had a car that was officially designated as a prototype. That means it’s two software patches behind what VW hopes customers will see. The first of those includes some bug fixes other reviewers might not have seen.
2021 VW ID.4: 5 hits and misses, up close with the electric car for the masses
There are plenty of delightful details in Volkswagen's mass-market electric car, but also some frustrating interfaces.
One more example: a terrific family car that needs the software to work better. Unfortunately there's no fixing the haptic controls until a new model year.Here's another review from the same car.
2021 VW ID.4: 5 hits and misses, up close with the electric car for the masses
There are plenty of delightful details in Volkswagen's mass-market electric car, but also some frustrating interfaces.
I've never been disappointed by Engineering Explained .... until now. 😣
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