NY also moving to ban sales of new gas cars by 2035.
Toyota makes a big announcement
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thats sounds like its enforced.. 2035 new ice car sales banned
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From the viewpoint of cars, though, California sets the standards for not only CA and NY but a bunch of other states.
CA sets it's standards for tailpipe emissions in CA. Other states can decide if they want to adopt them. Otherwise the US government sets standards for cars.
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"Together these states account for well over a third of auto sales in the United States and about 40% of its population."
And the folks that want an ICE can still buy and drive one.
Be careful with extrapolations. Do not assume all of those states will adopt all that CA does.
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I think Toyotas statement that Lithium should be distributed across many Hybrid cars instead of comparably few full battery BEV's makes sense. This would help the environment and would make Lithium to last longer. Most daily needs can be achieved with the battery of a Hybrid.
Unfortunately people like me who want to get away from ICE only have the option to go full BEV at this point in time. In a few years there is maybe the Toyota version of a renewable Hydrogen + EV Hybrid. It might be the right choice to not abandon everything.
Unfortunately people like me who want to get away from ICE only have the option to go full BEV at this point in time. In a few years there is maybe the Toyota version of a renewable Hydrogen + EV Hybrid. It might be the right choice to not abandon everything.
yes but that is a pain, by 2035, most buyers of cars in cali will be ev.
you seem to have limited knowledge of states emission laws and regulation.. majority of new ice cars sold within the continental usa are meeting emission standard of all the states... so whatever california has right now, automakers follow..
I poste this a few pages ago. Just making an statement without numbers could be misleading.
Tesla by itself makes about 1.8 million cars this year. They will use about 160 million kWh of batteries for those cars. That is more than what it takes to convert every NEW passenger car on the planet to a robust hybrid (1.5 kWh per car, about 100 kWh total). And Tesla doesn't use more than 20 or 25 percent of automotive batteries.
Toyota wants to make whatever is more profitable for them. If they were genuine they would make many more PHEVs at least.
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Ford F150 ICE trucks are the #1 selling vehicles in the US and once that is replaced with EV trucks, that will be the beginning of the wide adoption accepted by the people and the elected officials. Ford and Rivian has a head start with their trucks and 2023 will be interesting with the release of GM’s version, Tesla Semi, Cybertruck, Nikola maybe, Mercedes and Volvo maybe. when they become feasible for heavy duty work and towing, there will be no turning back especially if oil prices rise again. Cybertruck love it or hate it is predicted to outsell the model Y.
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True, however the point's well made by @Dougie01 that many Commonwealths/States now follow in lock-step where CA goes wrt emissions (mine included). They're not required to do so, but do none the less.
Which only means that CA dealers will lose business and folks that live in agricultural/rural regions will need to buy their ICE cars from dealers in other states.
In NYC? Maybe. In New York state? I doubt it even if that is the stated goal.
Many models are configured to meet CA emissions as the manufacturer does not know where (which state) the car will ultimately be sold. I is simply easier to make them the same even if it is not really required.
ca/wa/po/ma/ny banning new gas cars in 2035. i mean they can still sell in states that allows it, but its not going to be a profitable model. lesser market arent going to be buying 40-70k gas suv
evolve or die with the horse/buggies
Again, new ICEs are not banned in CA after 2035. The only thing changing is that dealers are not allowed to sell new ICE cars in CA. Finally, this is an executive order which can be easily overturned assuming the governor ( or the next one) does not back off on this position before that time.
My guess is that this will be watered down by 2035. As long as your car is a mild hybrid or something like that it will be OK. In 12 years PHEVs and EVs will be much better than ICE cars, so few people will buy an ICE anyway.
"new" ice car "sales" are banned after 2035.. i've stated this this before.. i think youre confusing it with blanket ice ban
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