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NeoFrank

Discussion Starter · Aug 16, 2021

Yesterday I took my ID out to the country, first via an Interstate, then on country roads. What happened was something that was curious (actually, not-so-good if you're being judgmental); I haven't seen other references to this glitch, so I wanted to share. I was driving the car in "D" mode on the highway, making use of Lane Assist. As I turned to the off-ramp, I felt the car somehow behave differently.

As I drove along on the country roads, I noticed the car began to aggressively brake every time I let up on the accelerator. It was as if I was in "B" mode. The intensity was sufficient to cause me to glance at the shifter every minute or two to see if I'd accidentally shifted into "B" - I hadn't. But there was no doubt that something had happened to cause the ID to behave as if I had. Every time I released the accelerator on the country roads, the car dramatically slowed down and the green indicator grew.

After about 20 more minutes, I reached my destination, and parked the car. When I departed thirty minutes later, car behaved normally for the drive home.

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mochalatte

· #2 · Aug 16, 2021

NeoFrank said:
As I drove along on the country roads, I noticed the car began to aggressively brake every time I let up on the accelerator.

That sounds like what might happen if your cruise control was set to a low speed without you intending to. If you were manually pressing the accelerator driving 50 mph while the cruise was set to 30 mph, for example, I think the car would use regen every time you pick up off the accelerator. Just one possibility.

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JimmyVW

· #3 · Aug 16, 2021

Might be the car was in sports mode as well

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rth121

· #4 · Aug 16, 2021

Possibly sport mode, maybe downhill? Feels like the car have some sensors if it knows it is going downhill, it starts regen

ChristophW

· #5 · Aug 16, 2021

I would have tried going into B mode and then back, to see whether that fixes the issue. Just a tought ...
@mochalatte's suspicion is also highly interesting.

JimmyVW

· #6 · Aug 16, 2021

Here in Europe we have “eco assist” which will regen even in D-mode when approaching traffic lights, crossings or bends “too fast”
(I personally like it)
But I don’t think you guys have that option in the US?

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VW TECHNICIAN

· #7 · Aug 16, 2021

Interesting....following

VW TECHNICIAN

· #8 · Aug 16, 2021

JimmyVW said:
Here in Europe we have “eco assist” which will regen even in D-mode when approaching traffic lights, crossings or bends “too fast”
(I personally like it)
But I don’t think you guys have that option in the US?

It is not enabled in US ...and this feature is much smarter than B mode.
This why people who complain about B mode in US don't understand that VW has much better on demand D&B and free rolling intelligent control

mochalatte

· #9 · Aug 16, 2021

mochalatte said:
That sounds like what might happen if your cruise control was set to a low speed without you intending to. If you were manually pressing the accelerator driving 50 mph while the cruise was set to 30 mph, for example, I think the car would use regen every time you pick up off the accelerator. Just one possibility.

I should have mentioned, one way that you might have your ACC set to 15 mph is if you use the "Poor Man's Brake Hold" as Bubbajet spoke of in this post. All you have to do is cancel the ACC, or reset the speed to the target you really want. Did you happen to try that trick out for the first time?

JimmyVW

· #10 · Aug 16, 2021

VW TECHNICIAN said:
It is not enabled in US ...and this feature is much smarter than B mode.
This why people who complain about B mode in US don't understand that VW has much better on demand D&B and free rolling intelligent control

Was afraid it wouldn’t be enabled in the US. Nav map quality not good enough I assume.

sorry, don’t want to hijack the thread but as some last words on the feature:
it really is great and I as I said I truly like it. It’s depending on proper and up to date navigation maps though. Even the latest one is missing a round-about in my neighborhood and I keep
forgetting it won’t slow me down there, so it always reminds me I need to use with thought and attention

Islander

· #11 · Aug 16, 2021

NeoFrank said:
Yesterday I took my ID out to the country, first via an Interstate, then on country roads. What happened was something that was curious (actually, not-so-good if you're being judgmental); I haven't seen other references to this glitch, so I wanted to share. I was driving the car in "D" mode on the highway, making use of Lane Assist. As I turned to the off-ramp, I felt the car somehow behave differently.

As I drove along on the country roads, I noticed the car began to aggressively brake every time I let up on the accelerator. It was as if I was in "B" mode. The intensity was sufficient to cause me to glance at the shifter every minute or two to see if I'd accidentally shifted into "B" - I hadn't. But there was no doubt that something had happened to cause the ID to behave as if I had. Every time I released the accelerator on the country roads, the car dramatically slowed down and the green indicator grew.

After about 20 more minutes, I reached my destination, and parked the car. When I departed thirty minutes later, car behaved normally for the drive home.

I am experiencing something similar. It may be related to having turned off ACC right before experiencing this B-like behavior. Not sure.

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VW TECHNICIAN

· #12 · Aug 16, 2021

JimmyVW said:
Was afraid it wouldn’t be enabled in the US. Nav map quality not good enough I assume.

sorry, don’t want to hijack the thread but as some last words on the feature:
it really is great and I as I said I truly like it. It’s depending on proper and up to date navigation maps though. Even the latest one is missing a round-about in my neighborhood and I keep
forgetting it won’t slow me down there, so it always reminds me I need to use with thought and attention

I don't have any information if it will be enabled for US ...but this one of the best implementation to make EV more efficient.
Only thing left they need to implement overspeed settings and Underspeed settings while using cruise control...
Example 10+ overspeed
5 Underspeed
From set cruise control...and this will definitely help while towing.
Because with this it will know when to speed up before climbing the hill and free roll just before top of the hill to use EV momentum to regain speed going downhill .....
And this implementation can save easily 5+ Kwh to use for whatever else....propulsion or comfort nannies consumption.

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NeoFrank

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 16, 2021

rth121 said:
Possibly sport mode, maybe downhill? Feels like the car have some sensors if it knows it is going downhill, it starts regen

Indeed, I was in Sport Mode; decided to play with it a bit for fun on the country roads...

JimmyVW

· #14 · Aug 16, 2021

NeoFrank said:
Indeed, I was in Sport Mode; decided to play with it a bit for fun on the country roads...

sport mode regens by default in D, just as if you are running an ICE in high revs and let go of the pedal

NeoFrank

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 16, 2021

ChristophW said:
I would have tried going into B mode and then back, to see whether that fixes the issue. Just a tought ...
@mochalatte's suspicion is also highly interesting.

It's one of those things that occurred to me after the fact. Would have, Should have 🤓

NeoFrank

Discussion Starter · #16 · Aug 16, 2021

mochalatte said:
That sounds like what might happen if your cruise control was set to a low speed without you intending to. If you were manually pressing the accelerator driving 50 mph while the cruise was set to 30 mph, for example, I think the car would use regen every time you pick up off the accelerator. Just one possibility.

This occurred to me, but I also remember slamming on the brakes for a deer; that's should have disengaged the cruise control, right?

NeoFrank

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 16, 2021

JimmyVW said:
sport mode regens by default in D, just as if you are running an ICE in high revs and let go of the pedal

That would make sense -- however, when I returned to the car 30 minutes later, this 'feature' was gone. It was driving normally in D mode and (presumably) the car was still in Sport?

JimmyVW

· #18 · Aug 16, 2021

NeoFrank said:
That would make sense -- however, when I returned to the car 30 minutes later, this 'feature' was gone. It was driving normally in D mode and (presumably) the car was still in Sport?

Also normal, the car switches back to comfort mode automatically on a restart. There is only one glitch apparently where the car will still show “sport mode” but runs in comfort actually.
If it is still in sport after you come back to the car, switch it from sport to something else and back again, and you should have your regen behavior again.

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Tinman

· #19 · Aug 16, 2021

NeoFrank said:
(presumably) the car was still in Sport?

As JimmyVW points out, this cannot be presumed. It is one of those vexing things that took this forum for me to figure out. It seems like one of those maybe/maybe not, 'how long have you been away from the car?' things.

Islander

· #20 · Aug 17, 2021

OK, here's the latest. I experienced the issue NeoFrank raised here early this afternoon. I'd had the car in D and ACC at about 55 MPH and had also briefly used TA. I was in a custom driving mode that was mostly sports mode settings. When I switched off TA and ACC, the car went into what I can only describe as half-B mode. When I took my foot off the accelerator, the regenerative braking mode indicator on the ID.cockpit lit green about 50% of the way. To be honest, it's kind of a nice way to drive! I wouldn't mind being able to switch this on and off. I tried switching the driving mode to comfort, and when I did so, I swear I could feel the half-B mode switch off when I let up off the accelerator--the car started to regenerative brake, then stopped, and the indicator on the cockpit went to the neutral coast position. When I switched to pure sports mode, the half-B mode returned. Strangest damn thing. I tried driving in B mode, and the regenerative effect in B is definitely stronger than what I call half-B.

I went out driving later this afternoon to see if I could replicate this effect, and I couldn't do it. No combination of TA, ACC and sports mode would switch half-B back on. My guess is that somehow I'm managing to trigger some setting that's built into the car that VW has not (or at least, doesn't think it has) switched on. And BTW, when I'm not experiencing the half-B effect, my car simply coasts in D and sports mode on a flat road when I take my foot off the accelerator.

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