[tonysunshine]

So I just got back from the double check service appt at the dealer. They told me storing items under the hood is a "bad idea", but didn't say why or what the consequences might be. I've been keeping the L1 charger, extension cord, and jumper cables in the gaps under the hood for a few weeks. I thought I got the idea from a thread on this forum, but maybe it was from facebook or reddit.

Anyone know if keeping stuff under the hood is dangerous/detrimental in some way?

 

[Enzo589]

So I just got back from the double check service appt at the dealer. They told me storing items under the hood is a "bad idea", but didn't say why or what the consequences might be. I've been keeping the L1 charger, extension cord, and jumper cables in the gaps under the hood for a few weeks. I thought I got the idea from a thread on this forum, but maybe it was from facebook or reddit.

Anyone know if keeping stuff under the hood is dangerous/detrimental in some way?

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I personally think that VW designed the car without a frunk because the open spaces are used for ventilation purposes. I might be wrong. It could also be that it was just VW using parts from their ice vehicles to save money and that was the configuration they were able to come up with. I have seen another thread where people are storing things, but for me, the car already has plenty of space without trying to use the frunk.

 

[Nai3t]

Less of a problem in EVs than in ICE, but the only concern I have with your setup is things vibrating and rubbing against each other, potentially damaging a hose, wire insulation, a plastic bracket, or a fluid container. I have my doubts about airflow through this area, but it would be interesting to monitor temps during operation (I'll bet there's a temperature recording phone app and an old phone could be stashed in here for a drive), and also to investigate the area with a thermal imaging camera. Ideally there would be a tray, because there is definitely enough clearance between the top of the equipment and the bottom of the closed hood to place a tray and lay flat / strap down the items you have there.

 

[Huey52]

Jumper cables? First off the ID's 12V battery is kept topped up by the main battery. Second it's the 21st century and we tote a Li-ion charge pack in our ICE vehicles [only].

I agree with your dealership and others in that you may be restricting proper ventilation airflow, especially the coolant & A/C systems for battery and occupants.

So, now that you can ditch your jumper cables and rather pack your charging cable beneath the cargo floor ....

edit: mea culpa; I now see you properly addressed this to our resident VW technicians and they should present their more informed stance on same (although I presume similar).

So I just got back from the double check service appt at the dealer. They told me storing items under the hood is a "bad idea", but didn't say why or what the consequences might be. I've been keeping the L1 charger, extension cord, and jumper cables in the gaps under the hood for a few weeks. I thought I got the idea from a thread on this forum, but maybe it was from facebook or reddit.

Anyone know if keeping stuff under the hood is dangerous/detrimental in some way?
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[John411iD]

I have my doubts about airflow through this area, but it would be interesting to monitor temps during operation (I'll bet there's a temperature recording phone app and an old phone could be stashed in here for a drive),

Car Scanner Elm Obd2 app indeed displays many temperature sensors in VW ID.3/4: battery modules, inlet temperature, etc.

 

[Nai3t]

Car Scanner Elm Obd2 app indeed displays many temperature sensors in VW ID.3/4: battery modules, inlet temperature, etc.

Right, but I'm curious about the top of the frunk area specifically. I don't see any radiators or metal boxes with cooling fins, no ducts, inlets, or ports. I also don't notice an exhorbatent layer of road grime coating everything. I really don't expect there's any appreciable amount of air movement through here.

 

[Huey52]

Don't forget "frunk volume" heat radiated/naturally convected to the hood/bonnet as effectively a heat sink.

Right, but I'm curious about the top of the frunk area specifically. I don't see any radiators or metal boxes with cooling fins, no ducts, inlets, or ports. I also don't notice an exhorbatent layer of road grime coating everything. I really don't expect there's any appreciable amount of air movement through here.

 

[Nai3t]

Don't forget "frunk volume" heat radiated/naturally convected to the hood/bonnet as effectively a heat sink. ...

That's one of the first things I checked after seeing how much room is in there, I checked for a warm hood. It's doesn't get warm during a cool night drive. I'm really incredulous there are any significant heat concerns in this compartment.

 

[Tinman]

Don't forget "frunk volume" heat radiated/naturally convected to the hood/bonnet as effectively a heat sink.

On a Dusk Blue Metallic not-a-frunk hood/bonnet, I think the worry would be protecting the junk in the not-a-frunk from the radiated heat of a 200ºF hood/bonnet. There's a lot of interesting EU-type pedestrian safety design going on there, but not a scrap of underhood insulation.

 

[Nai3t]

... the worry would be protecting the junk in the not-a-frunk from the radiated heat of a 200ºF hood/bonnet.

Hmmm...

Counter point: my i3, black hood, single layer aluminum, uninsulated, doesn't have such a problem that I'm aware of, and my daily use EVSE lives there.

You guys pushed me over. I just ordered a temperature logger. I'm going to gather some data, day and night, driving and parked. Let's see what's going on under there

 

[Huey52]

Yes, that's my point. My wife's somewhat similar GLA CUV doesn't have any under-hood insulation and Benz specifically cites that its that way to better radiant internal heat. Granted a much hotter ICE of course.
The underside of the ID.4 hood has a very interesting mechanical structure but I don't know if it's purely for support, pedestrian crush-safety, or if there's also an airflow component.
Heat is of course relative. There's solar loading to consider but if the underside is hotter it will still radiant to that cooler side. Heat just loves to move to cold and hence home insulation. And heat also loves to Rise.

On a Dusk Blue Metallic not-a-frunk hood/bonnet, I think the worry would be protecting the junk in the not-a-frunk from the radiated heat of a 200ºF hood/bonnet. There's a lot of interesting EU-type pedestrian safety design going on there, but not a scrap of underhood insulation.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

So I just got back from the double check service appt at the dealer. They told me storing items under the hood is a "bad idea", but didn't say why or what the consequences might be. I've been keeping the L1 charger, extension cord, and jumper cables in the gaps under the hood for a few weeks. I thought I got the idea from a thread on this forum, but maybe it was from facebook or reddit.

Anyone know if keeping stuff under the hood is dangerous/detrimental in some way?

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Definitely against the design of the ID4....any damages caused by owner will be your responsibility.....it is your choice....
Good luck.

 

[eranschau]

I would like everyone who'd does this to hang a sign in their back windows so that I can never, ever follow them down the road.

 

[Huey52]

Ok, let's go easy now and give TonySunshine credit for having the good sense to discuss here. Now hopefully given this feedback, and the dealer's similar comments, he'll remove same.

I would like everyone who'd does this to hang a sign in their back windows so that I can never, ever follow them down the road.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

I'm not judging....but there is a lot of expensive parts ...and if any of this happens to finish hitting the blower it will do a lot of damaging.
If the poster of this thread is brave enough and he is not worried about costing him money if something goes wrong.
Headlight modules are also heat sink for Headlights controllers so please keep things away from it.
Good luck.

 

[Jkartx]

If you require the extra space of a frunk, you bought the wrong sized vehicle.

 

[eranschau]

Ok, let's go easy now and give TonySunshine credit for having the good sense to discuss here. Now hopefully given this feedback, and the dealer's similar comments, he'll remove same.

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen a post like this, and, to be honest, I’m pretty sure we’re being trolled.

 

[Nai3t]

If you require the extra space of a frunk, you bought the wrong sized vehicle.

I've seen people write this to car owners who put Yakima cargo bins on their roofs. I say nonsense. I installed a small storage compartment in my BEV i3 where the REX engine would normally go. It's aftermarket, not a BMW part. Did I buy the wrong car?

If I can find a way to safely store the included EVSE under the hood (not wedged like the OP did in his photos), why does that offend you?

 

[tonysunshine]

It was an honest question. Thanks everyone for your thoughts and input. Didnt know it was such a heated/controversial topic. My apologies if I somehow offended anyone

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen a post like this, and, to be honest, I’m pretty sure we’re being trolled.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

It was an honest question. Thanks everyone for your thoughts and input. Didnt know it was such a heated/controversial topic. My apologies if I somehow offended anyone

No issues on my side it is your ride and you can only make decision what is good or not.
I guess you have good opinions from others...some good and some bad....
Good luck.
It is good idea but it will need better solution to make it more safe.....i guess some aftermarket companies would figure out trays .