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Lots of good specifics in here about the US-spec ID.4. I noticed, for example, that the trailer hitch for the 1st Edition is different than the one on the Pro. Maybe the 1st Edition has the euro-style drop-down hitch? Curious.
 

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Nice! Thanks!

aarg! Another $325 for HomeLink and a compass in the mirror - Rearview Mirror w/ HomeLink庐 Frameless, Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror w/ Electronic Compass & HomeLink庐 Garage Door Opener $325 (Erick posted same as I was editing, totally agree, this seems like it should at least be a 1st thing, if not all Pro too.)
 

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Looks like we have to swap the mirror to get HomeLink garage door opener. That's kinda silly.
 

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Does this mean no real option only accessories?

I really like the blue and seat options on the Pro S just not sure if it is worth $4500.

Still interested to see what the base Audi Q4 is going to be like.
 

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So my EV newbie is going to show through here.... I noticed on the spec sheet there is an 11kW onboard charger. My confusion is why would I need a wall mount charger in my garage if there is already one in the vehicle? Shouldn't I be able to plug it in directly to the 50 amp welder circuit in my garage? The L1 charging cable won't be hefty enough. The receptacle is a NEMA 6-50R so if the cable doesn't match it would need to be swapped out.
 

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Thanks for posting this -- lots of good info. I wonder if they list the trailer hitch on two different lines because of the difference in tow rating, or if it's actually different. Seems unlikely that the hitch itself would be different, but I guess we'll find out. And that is one very pricey cargo net...
 

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Looks like we have to swap the mirror to get HomeLink garage door opener. That's kinda silly.
Unless you use Apple CarPlay to open your garage door. It鈥檚 one of the best features of CarPlay! It pops up a button on your CarPlay home screen when very close to home. It works by linking your HomeKit to the Garage door opener and has a 300 yard geofence. I presently use it on the e-Golf and it is bloody marvellous! It pops on the screen when I鈥檓 300 yards from home and prompts you to click to confirm the door opening. I have not tested this on Android, but sure Google would have similar Android functionitly.
 

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Unless you use Apple CarPlay to open your garage door. It鈥檚 one of the best features of CarPlay! It pops up a button on your CarPlay home screen when very close to home. It works by linking your HomeKit to the Garage door opener and has a 300 yard geofence. I presently use it on the e-Golf and it is bloody marvellous! It pops on the screen when I鈥檓 300 yards from home and prompts you to click to confirm the door opening. I have not tested this on Android, but sure Google would have similar Android functionitly.
Thanks. I hadn't thought about this. We are a house divided Android/Apple - will have to see how I can enable both.
 
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So my EV newbie is going to show through here.... I noticed on the spec sheet there is an 11kW onboard charger. My confusion is why would I need a wall mount charger in my garage if there is already one in the vehicle? Shouldn't I be able to plug it in directly to the 50 amp welder circuit in my garage? The L1 charging cable won't be hefty enough. The receptacle is a NEMA 6-50R so if the cable doesn't match it would need to be swapped out.
You've basically got it right. The "charger" in your garage, also known as an EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment), is really just a fancy cable that delivers power to the car and communicates with the onboard charger in a basic way. The onboard charger does the actual charging, and 11kW is good by today's standards. If you already have a dedicated 50-amp circuit in your garage with a NEMA 6-50 outlet, that's great. An 11kw onboard charger will be able to use that level of power. But you'll still need a good EVSE with a beefy cable to safely deliver that power to the car. Some portable charging cables that come with EVs can be plugged into 240V power (e.g. Tesla and the Leaf+), but others cannot. The portable charging cable that will come with the ID.4 is L1 (120V only), so no-go for plugging into the NEMA 6-50. There are many aftermarket EVSEs available with a 6-50 plug already installed, so if you've got the outlet already you're one purchase away from L2 (Level 2 -- 240V) home charging. You can just get one with the right plug and plug it in. Unfortunately, the one that comes with the car isn't up to the task and you'll have to buy one if you want to charge faster at home. And there are so many to choose from it can be hard to choose one. VW will probably have a recommended one and may sell you one, but you could get whichever one you like best.
 

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I can鈥檛 believe the VW is trying to gouge customers on a garage door opener is this technology era. I haven鈥檛 used CarPlay, other than rentals. I鈥檓 looking forward to it.
 

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You've basically got it right. The "charger" in your garage, also known as an EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment), is really just a fancy cable that delivers power to the car and communicates with the onboard charger in a basic way. The onboard charger does the actual charging, and 11kW is good by today's standards. If you already have a dedicated 50-amp circuit in your garage with a NEMA 6-50 outlet, that's great. An 11kw onboard charger will be able to use that level of power. But you'll still need a good EVSE with a beefy cable to safely deliver that power to the car. Some portable charging cables that come with EVs can be plugged into 240V power (e.g. Tesla and the Leaf+), but others cannot. The portable charging cable that will come with the ID.4 is L1 (120V only), so no-go for plugging into the NEMA 6-50. There are many aftermarket EVSEs available with a 6-50 plug already installed, so if you've got the outlet already you're one purchase away from L2 (Level 2 -- 240V) home charging. You can just get one with the right plug and plug it in. Unfortunately, the one that comes with the car isn't up to the task and you'll have to buy one if you want to charge faster at home. And there are so many to choose from it can be hard to choose one. VW will probably have a recommended one and may sell you one, but you could get whichever one you like best.
Thanks so much for the information!
 

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Thanks. I hadn't thought about this. We are a house divided Android/Apple - will have to see how I can enable both.
You should be able to enable both Apple & Android, although you may need a 鈥淏ridge鈥 by your garage door opener manufacturer. A bridge is also a whole lot cheaper (approx $80) than $325 for homelink and works automatically.
 

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My confusion is why would I need a wall mount charger in my garage if there is already one in the vehicle?
I think the answer from @nj_8035 covered everything you need to know, but you might find the Technology Connections video about "chargers" helpful, as well:
 
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Thanks so much for the information!
NEMA 6-50 is a little less common than NEMA 14-50 for EV charging, but would work just as well. You will have fewer choices for an EVSE with a NEMA 6-50 plug installed, but there are still good ones out there. Clipper Creek makes several, like the HCS-40P. The only downside is that they are quite expensive for what they are. You can find much less expensive ones on Amazon, but most of those aren't UL-listed and my personal risk tolerance has kept me away from those.
 

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NEMA 6-50 is a little less common than NEMA 14-50 for EV charging, but would work just as well. You will have fewer choices for an EVSE with a NEMA 6-50 plug installed, but there are still good ones out there. Clipper Creek makes several, like the HCS-40P. The only downside is that they are quite expensive for what they are. You can find much less expensive ones on Amazon, but most of those aren't UL-listed and my personal risk tolerance has kept me away from those.
I'm totally with you on the UL listing.
 

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Thanks to Sprylo for posting! Looking at this doesn't seem like there is going to be any way to avoid the white steering wheel on the 1st edition, was really hoping to see it as optional. So for those of you who have always clean hands and wanted a Blue 1st, I'll be freeing one up :(! Oh well I can hold out another few months.
 

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Lots of good specifics in here about the US-spec ID.4. I noticed, for example, that the trailer hitch for the 1st Edition is different than the one on the Pro. Maybe the 1st Edition has the euro-style drop-down hitch? Curious.
Thanks! I can鈥檛 recall, but does anyone know the glass roof color if you don鈥檛 get radiant package?
 

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So the gray interior will not be available in a blue 1st edition despite being pictured in that configuration in this PDF? Bizzare
 
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