[ericy]

I found an ID.3 manual for the UK market. While not the same, it gave me an idea of what to expect.

 

[salant76]

I found an ID.3 manual for the UK market. While not the same, it gave me an idea of what to expect.

The ID.4 Owner's manual from the UK was posted here: ID4 other features

There will be differences between the US version however.

 

[Wa.id.4]

We really need a VIN to continue our sleuthing. With a VIN, we could see if we can do any specific ship, rail, or truck tracking. Ford allows a lot of tracking with a VIN, including public access to some of their truck shipping. First guess is VW does not, but we can only know for sure with a VIN.

Also, odd, Ford lists all of their demos which are not for sale (so there are lot of sample VINs out there), but there are no ID.4 anywhere (not even one) at places like autotrader. Dealers (at least NE) also do not yet show a single ID.4 (apparently consistent with the speculated batch release plan).

I guess if someone goes to a demo somewhere, try to get a snap shot of the VIN. Maybe at least we can look at its manual online (or not, if demos don't work). Also, with key letter codes of an ID.4 VIN, we could search our My VW webpage data (although that is increasingly looking like an exercise in futility).

2021 Volkswagen U.S. VIN Breakdown

VIN decoding for FEs was reported to NHTSA in December.

 

[Huey52]

The VIN for the December sales demo vehicle in dealerships here didn't work, not that I really expected it to.

We really need a VIN to continue our sleuthing. ... I guess if someone goes to a demo somewhere, try to get a snap shot of the VIN. ...

 

[ChristophW]

2021 Volkswagen U.S. VIN Breakdown

VIN decoding for FEs was reported to NHTSA in December.

So we are looking at WVGDMPE2[check digit]MPXXXXXX - where the last 5 Xs represent the sequential production number. The demo VIN we know had a K instead of the D in position 4 (preprod vs. FE), the rest was the same.
Does anyone have the capability to figure out the rest through trial and error in some tool?

 

[ixlr08]

So we are looking at WVGDMPE2[check digit]MPXXXXXX - where the last 5 Xs represent the sequential production number. The demo VIN we know had a K instead of the D in position 4 (preprod vs. FE), the rest was the same.
Does anyone have the capability to figure out the rest through trial and error in some tool?

Would it be WVG made in Europe or 1V2 made for US market? As position 11 defines where it was made.

 

[RocketVol]

Would it be WVG made in Europe or 1V2 made for US market? As position 11 defines where it was made.

Looking at sedans, it has WVW for German made cars and my North American Phaeton built in Dresden starts with WVW. I am betting that the location in position 11 is the specific plant, and the first 3 codes represent the country. I think Audi's are WAU, so I would bet that W is Germany and the other 2 are the manufacturer's code

 

[corfam]

Does anyone have the capability to figure out the rest through trial and error in some tool?

I'm not one that can would know how to script something, but I did find a site that will determine the check digit.

Check Digit Calculator | CJ Pony Parts

The 9th digit of a Vehicle Identification Number, or VIN, is the "Check Digit" and is is used to validate the VIN. Use this calculator to see if your VIN is valid.

www.cjponyparts.com

I tried a few low number sequential production numbers, calculated their check digit, and then plugged in the full VIN into VW's manual website. All tried VINs failed check at VW. It's possible I made an error or VW hasn't activated any VIN on that manual website yet. Hopefully other people try and have better results.

 

[ChristophW]

I'm not one that can would know how to script something, but I did find a site that will determine the check digit.

Check Digit Calculator | CJ Pony Parts

The 9th digit of a Vehicle Identification Number, or VIN, is the "Check Digit" and is is used to validate the VIN. Use this calculator to see if your VIN is valid.

www.cjponyparts.com

I tried a few low number sequential production numbers, calculated their check digit, and then plugged in the full VIN into VW's manual website. All tried VINs failed check at VW. It's possible I made an error or VW hasn't activated any VIN on that manual website yet. Hopefully other people try and have better results.

Methinks we are close, and your second assumption is likely. Another tool is needed to verify a VIN.

 

[Wa.id.4]

Despite the document I linked from VW to NHTSA the NHTSA wants a different identifier for the Zwickau plant. Here is a valid vin by all checkers I can find online, including the NHTSA -

WVGDMPE25MK000123

The check digit will change if you change the production number (last 6). To discover what it should be the NHTSA has a check digit validator here that will give you the correct value for the 9th digit.

 

[ErickF]

I believe it should be WVW

Edit: nevermind...read it wrong.

 

[ChristophW]

WVGDMPE25MK000123

That VIN worked for my insurance agent. I've got a real quote now at $50 higher per 6 months than my 2008 Honda Fit costs to insure.
Thanks @Wa.id.4!

 

[gazpachoking]

That VIN worked for my insurance agent. I've got a real quote now at $50 higher per 6 months than my 2008 Honda Fit costs to insure.
Thanks @Wa.id.4!

Nice! I'm also coming from an '08 Honda Fit. Hopefully my quote comes out similar, although it feels like that's a bit too good to be true...

 

[ErickF]

Despite the document I linked from VW to NHTSA the NHTSA wants a different identifier for the Zwickau plant. Here is a valid vin by all checkers I can find online, including the NHTSA -

WVGDMPE25MK000123

The check digit will change if you change the production number (last 6). To discover what it should be the NHTSA has a check digit validator here that will give you the correct value for the 9th digit.

I just got my VIN. Replace the MK with MP. My sequence# is in the 8000 range.

 

[RocketVol]

I just got my VIN. Replace the MK with MP. My sequence# is in the 8000 range.

Did you get it from your dealer? the silence from mine is frustrating

 

[corfam]

I just got my VIN. Replace the MK with MP. My sequence# is in the 8000 range.

No luck from my side with accessing online manual after recreating a VIN using MK, 8000 range (or otherwise) and the check digit verified on the NHRSA website. I'll try again later when I have more time, but hopefully someone figures it out before then and posts it.

 

[ixlr08]

No luck from my side with accessing online manual after recreating a VIN using MK, 8000 range (or otherwise) and the check digit verified on the NHRSA website. I'll try again later when I have more time, but hopefully someone figures it out before then and posts it.

Try using MP in place of the MK.

 

[Wa.id.4]

2 says ago MP failed to pass NHTSA site checks. P was not a recognized valid value for that position. So there may be some fluidity to the truth right now.

 

[ErickF]

Did you get it from your dealer? the silence from mine is frustrating

He had a printout with my order status. The manuals don't seem to be available yet.

 

[corfam]

Try using MP in place of the MK.

Ugh. Yea. Sorry. I meant to say that I had tried with MP. Thanks for flagging.

The manuals don't seem to be available yet.

Thanks for trying Erick. Hopefully sometime soon.