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VW Id.4 Max - Winter consumption at 110 and 130 km/h review

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Chris from Battery Life will be shortly posting his range tests on the ID.4:


Cool to see an ID.3 owner be able to test the ID.4 early on. These are the videos that I really like to see.
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So to sum up this video review -
ID4 Max
200 HP single motor RWD
Cabin temperature = 70 F with Heat Pump
Outside Temperature = 34 F
Driving Speed = 70 mph
Range = 160 miles
So to sum up this video review -
ID4 Max
200 HP single motor RWD
Cabin temperature = 70 F with Heat Pump
Outside Temperature = 34 F
Driving Speed = 70 mph
Range = 160 miles
That's almost shockingly low. I wonder if there was a strong headwind because ~2mi/kWh efficiency is awfully low. For context, in ~15F weather doing 70MPH on the highway, I typically see ~2.7mi/kWh efficiency in my Bolt, which is a less aerodynamic car with no heat pump.
That's almost shockingly low. I wonder if there was a strong headwind because ~2mi/kWh efficiency is awfully low. For context, in ~15F weather doing 70MPH on the highway, I typically see ~2.7mi/kWh efficiency in my Bolt, which is a less aerodynamic car with no heat pump.
Posted in the other thread as well:

He's (in the video) calculating range by just using the percentage decrease in state of charge, and I don't think that's precise enough since the percentages are rounded, etc. Consumption of 25.3 kWh/100km with a 77 kWh battery looks a whole lot like 189 mile range to me. And based on his other tests, without heat pump, then we'd probably be at 160-170 miles.
Now what about AWD and even colder upper Midwest temperatures and no heat pump? 120 miles tops? Goodness. It's not exclusively an issue for this car, but starting with such a low range makes these things add up.
Beginning to think the ID.4 isn’t gonna work for me, especially without a heat pump. The conditions in this test were still pretty ideal too.

Now do -10°F with studded tires and a ski rack. Would probably be 100mi of range...
Another video from Chris
Another video from Chris
He was able to show charging in that one, and it looks very good. It pulled 126kW at 12% SoC, and claimed it would take 30 minutes to reach 80%.
Beginning to think the ID.4 isn’t gonna work for me, especially without a heat pump. The conditions in this test were still pretty ideal too.

Now do -10°F with studded tires and a ski rack. Would probably be 100mi of range...
This strange test shows that the heatpump makes the id3 drain more energy than without:
This strange test shows that the heatpump makes the id3 drain more energy than without:
All of these YouTube videos are fun, and might even in some cases give a directionally accurate view of some feature of the vehicle, but I'd struggle to take any of them as hard evidence of anything, just because they may not be taking into account procedures necessary to devise and carry out an accurate test.

I unfortunately can't right now work through a 40+ minute video where I need to rely on subtitles to understand much of what's being said, but Chris from Battery Life comes to mind as someone who seems to be a nice guy, is entertaining, and is trying to put out useful content, but is getting the details wrong. At least with some of his videos, the necessary data was provided to be able to make a more accurate calculation, but it's still not anything I'd rely on to draw trends or make decisions.
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