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VW ID.4 Pro S AWD vs Ford Mustang Mach E AWD SR (eqpt group 300A)

Owned both vehicles in the title for a while now and thought I'd do a quick comparo. Hope this might help someone deciding between.

Price: Lots of factors at play here with tax credits, the IRA, etc. Paid sticker for both and the VW was about $3K less. We had a very good experience with both dealers – no games on price or anything else.

Cabin/Etc: Hard to call. The Ford’s pano glass roof is much more tinted, probably because it does not have a manual or powered shade like the VW, and it starts further back. The VW’s cabin in general feels brighter, and more open and expansive. The MME interior overall feels higher-quality and more solidly put together. The MME has more storage areas in the center console area and it has a sunglasses holder up high. I am very tall and have a little more legroom in the VW.

Looks: ID.4. Obviously subjective, and I get zero looks in the VW versus a number in the Ford, but I prefer the exterior look overall of the ID4.

Acceleration: ID.4. I imagine the LR battery AWD MME would be a better match, but the ID4 feels right quick while the MME is no slouch but feels slower.

Ride/Handling: MME, but close. The VW has an unpleasant twitchiness when cruising while the MME feels dead stable and centered. Both cars have decent initial turn in and cornering capability due to the low center of mass, but both also make their heavy weight known after that initial turn in if you try to hold speed through or accelerate out of a corner.

Noise: MME. The MME has noticeably less tire roar/road noise and is overall a bit quieter with wind noise. However, the Ford does have turbulence noise near the upper A pillar that stands out and starts around 60 MPH.

One-Pedal Driving: Ford, hands down. It has true OPD and enough brake regen to comfortably and normally come to a complete stop in most driving conditions. This didn’t seem like a huge feature going in, but after having both, it became clear quickly that true OPD is a huge positive. One of two of the biggest surprises.

Driver Aids: Close. I find the LKA on the ID.4 overly sensitive and its corrections too harsh. The sensor can be fooled fairly easily, and it’s no fun to have an unexpected tug on the wheel in heavy rain or with snow/ice on the ground. It can also be a real issue on narrow lined roads: if there’s an oncoming large vehicle, I want to be able to casually drift my passenger side tires onto or even slightly over the edge line without having the car forcefully jerk me back (into the oncoming vehicle). The Ford’s seems less intrusive and safer. I don’t find myself regularly using the VW’s travel assist feature, and haven’t had the Ford on a longish drive on a highway that supports full Blue Cruise. Both’s adaptive cruise works well.

Headlights: edge to VW. Both vehicles have very good low beam headlights but the VW with the foul weather (turning/side) lights is excellent for driving in neighborhoods, around parked cars, and in general where you are concerned about cross people/bikes/etc.

Foul weather driving: NA, but likely Ford. I drove the VW through last winter and found it atrocious on the OEM Alenzas in even light snow. A modest low-speed turn with no acceleration makes the rear squirrelly. It is great and confidence-inspiring in the rain. We will see how the Ford compares this winter.

Parking: Tie. The VW has an amazingly tight turning radius while the MME is just fine/normal. But the MME parking sensors are quicker to turn on and react, and it has the 360-degree camera view.

Electronics: Hands down the MME. The Ford has PAK (phone as key) that works flawlessly with multiple phones/drivers. Approach the MME with a paired phone and it’s just like you have a key fob in your pocket. And, you can just walk away and have the car automatically lock. This was a surprise feature and even more of a surprise how convenient it is – the other of the two biggest surprises. Connecting, setting up, and switching devices is well….modern like and iPhone or iPad whereas the VW is a mess. The Ford has real buttons on the steering wheel for adjusting volume, changing track, etc. I hate the capacitive buttons all over the VW and haven’t gotten used to them in almost a year. The main center computer has had no bugs or issues while the VW’s has. The Ford B&O stereo is superior in terms of solid, tight bass and clarity at higher volumes. Both have wireless CarPlay which is how we use the system. While the Ford’s screen is bigger, I prefer the horizontal orientation and slight cant toward the driver of the VW.

Updates: Ford. We’ve had the VW almost a year and not gotten a single update or improvement to the software. In a month with the Ford we’ve already gotten one or two.

Mobile App: Hands down the MME. The VW app is slow and unreliable and has fewer features. The “upgrade” to the iOS app around 6 months ago was anything but – it now often requires manually re-inputting username/password and almost always requires re-entering a PIN. The MME app works flawlessly with FaceID. The Ford app also has better notifications – eg, when the vehicle is fully charged.

Charging: MME. The VW has weirdness with the charge rate between 9.6kW and 4.8kW while the Ford doesn’t allow setting a universal max charge amount. That said, the Ford mobile app allows easily overriding a given location’s max charge to 100% instead. Both charge easily overnight on a L2 EVSE delivering 40A (ie, 50a circuit). The tipping point is the charge port location of the Ford is superior (front driver fender versus rear passenger quarter panel).

Range: Tie (see details). The VW has more range versus the standard range (ie, smaller battery option) Ford. However, we find ourselves renting an ICE vehicle for long road trips, so the VW’s extra range and EA network and free supercharging aren’t a factor for us.
 
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If you had to chose one, which would it be? I have a Mach E (Select with tech & comfort package) scheduled to be built in October. I also have a 2023 ID4 Pro S Plus on order. The 2023 seems to have almost all the same features as the Mach E (minus the self driving mode) plus a couple of other features (360 camera, rear heated seats, hands free lift gate, dual powered front chairs with massage, and etc).
 
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I didn't make an explicit call on the MME vs ID4 initially because IMO both are very good vehicles and, with standard EV caveats, better choices than similar ICE options. I imagine after six more months, I'll have had more time in the MME and also seen how it is in winter conditions. All that said, if I could go back in time (and pre MME price increases), I would have at least gotten the LR MME and might have even sprung for the GT (except, dang it, I really prefer the light grey seats -- have those in both our MME and ID4). With the speedy GT, I think we might have been ok being a one EV household, or at least a one SUV/CUV household.

I haven't followed the 2023 ID4 info closely but our MME Premium (and ID4) have the foot-activated lift gate feature. Does the 2023 ID4 have the PaaK w/ walk-away lock and also one pedal driving? For me, those are huge factors. The far superior Ford iOS app is also a major factor -- just now I was able to check status on the MME within about 2 seconds of picking up my phone. Doing the same for the ID4 took about 30 seconds and I think it's showing cached/stale status info. I wish one or both had ventilated front seats -- I would happily trade massaging for that feature. The significant other loves the heated steering wheel (both cars have) but I could care less.
 
#3 ·
Really appreciate this comparison as we just got our MME Premium AWD SR and have a VW ID.4 Pro S Plus on order.
 
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Yes, it’s easy to switch back and forth and it remembers the last setting used in the driver profile.
 
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I also forgot to post that the MME's seats are more "American" -- wider, flatter, and softer -- while the ID4's are more "European" -- narrower, contoured, and firmer. And, I prefer the 2022 ID4 captain's chair style seats with independent inboard-side armrest versus the MME (and, I believe 2023 ID4) shared center console arm rest.
 
#10 ·
It seems the MME costs about about 20% more than the ID4. It seem like a nice car. Would be on my list but then comes the price :)
 
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This is incredibly useful and timely, thank you for posting! I've been driving an AWD 2021 ID.4 Pro S (w/ Gradient) since February of this year. I placed an order for a RWD 2022 Mustang Mach E Select (w/ Comfort & Tech) two weeks before I bought the ID.4. The Mach E is scheduled to be built next week, which means I'm within a couple months of needing to make a decision: keep the ID.4 or trade it on the Mach E. I have some concerns and you are in a perfect position to help address them.

Acceleration - 300hp ID.4 vs. 266hp MME - Is the acceleration difference really noticeable?
Ride - The ID.4 has a buttery smooth ride and I've read the MME can be stiff and bouncy, especially in the back seat. How is the ride comfort, especially on highways?
Range - The AWD ID.4 and RWD MME SR have similar ranges on paper. In practice at 80% charge I'm seeing 200 miles of range in the ID.4. Do you see the same in the MME?
Charging - I don't use DCFC often, but I have had a few occasions where I've needed to charge when traveling for my kids' sports. It is typically a ~25 minute stop to go from 30-ish% to 80%. Is charging appreciable faster or slower in one vs. the other?

Carvana is valuing my ID.4 at $49,500 and I have a purchase agreement with the dealer on the MME for $48,500, so there is a good chance I could do a straight trade from the ID.4 to the MME with nothing out of pocket. What's more, I could take advantage of another $7,500 in federal credit in the spring. That's a pretty strong incentive for me to make the switch. Would you swap the ID.4 for the MME if you were in my shoes?
 
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I own a 2022 ID4 Pro S AWD Gradient. I've driven 3 different Select MMEs.

First of all, you can go wrong with either car.

Secondly, if price is a factor, the MME has now priced itself well above the ID4 for 2023. There was recently a $3-8K increase by Ford for their 2023 EV models. The 2023 ID4 is also priced a bit higher than the 2022 but not by that much. VW also now offers lower priced options for 2023 including a base ID4 for $37500 and a base AWD ID4 for $46,295. So compared to an anticipated starting price for the 2023 MME Select AWD of around $51K, that is quite a difference.

When I was shopping, I compared the 2022 MME Select AWD to my 2022 AWD Pro S Gradient ID4. Given the $2000 NYS tax incentive for the ID4 (vs $500 for the MME) and $7500 federal tax credit (yes, before the inflation reduction bill passed), the cars were nearly equally priced on MSRP if you delete the Gradient which still has larger tires/wheels than the Select AWD MME. So a 2022 ID4 non-gradient AWD Pro S was about $50K less $2K = $48K less $7500 = approx $40,500 net plus tax. The 2022 Select AWD MME was $48K - $500 - $7500 = $40,000 approx net plus tax.

Now these are the differences IMO between a "loaded" ID4 and a "base" MME.
1. Steering sensitive Headlights and directional sensitive Side Lights.
2. Massage seats.
3. Memory seats (buttons and in infotainment). MME offers same in user configuration in infotainment.
4. Larger overall storage with ID4
5. ID4 is more SUV like.
6. Largest moonroof offered with shade (essential, not even included with Premium MME).
7. German engineering and build quality. MME is also very well built.
8. Infotainment and tactile controls in ID4 takes some getting used to and are quirky, but still doable. MME infotainment screen is superior as is the software.
9. Seat comfort and ride quality I would give to the ID4, although the MME isn't far behind.
10. I find the AWD ID4 to be very quick. MME numbers say it's faster but the ID4 feels faster. I think it's because the MME is faster off the line and the ID4 is not as "violent" (purposely).
11. I like the looks of both cars, but the ID4 seems more roomy and airy, especially with the moonroof open.
12. More range in ID4. During the Summer months I've been averaging 3.5 m/kWh. That equates to 269.5 miles per full charge. The MME is rated around 230 miles overall. In actual comparison, I think there about a 20-30 mile difference per full charge due to the larger ID4 battery.

The biggest problem with the ID4 is the infotainment system but with version 3.1 it isn't bad.
 
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I have been dying to weigh in on this one. We ordered both an ID.4 Pro AWD and Mach E, the ID.4 on Dec. 1 2021 and a Mach E Select AWD SR on March 1, 2022. Both are nowhere to be seen at this point btw. Without getting into the weeds too much I really want to share the differences I have found.

The Mach E was configured to be as close to the ID.4 as possible and was going to cost about $2500 (48K vs over 50K) more than the ID.4. If we bought the Mach E it would be have less room, slower to 60 (6.1 or so compared to 5.5 for the ID4) charge slower (not sure if it has changed but 2021 Mach E STD range charged at a max of 90KWH) and has less range with the smaller battery. Both are nice cars but in our case the ID.4 edges it out in most comparisons.

That said the Select no longer offers the "Comfort and Technology" package which provides heated seat and steering wheel, an essential for us. Only way to get something comparable to a $50,000 ID.4 is to get a $60,000 Premium Mach E.

The punchline is that we got lucky and picked up a "loaded" 2021 ID.4 for MSRP in May and am so grateful we did because we got a car with a guaranteed $7500 rebate on a $50,895 sticker with the same features that would cost maybe 52 to 60K on the 2022/23 ID.4 and 60K on the 2022/23 Mach E with no guaranteed rebate on either. $ for $ I think the ID.4 easily takes the Mach E, except maybe on looks and that's subjective of course. Both great cars mind you but not worth the premium you will pay for the Mach E.
 
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2023s have gone up in price for sure, but the 2022 Mach-E Premium AWD SR is $53k. It also charges at 150 kWh.

Don’t have our ID.4 yet for comparison, but I love our Mach-E.
 
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I'd say one of the biggest advantages of the Mach E over the ID4 is the 360 camera. Only on the tech comfort pkg Select (if still available) or the Premium MME. However, still no massage seats, steering responsive headlights or shaded moonroof on any MME. ID4 is a good value for what it is.
 
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One-Pedal Driving: Ford, hands down. It has true OPD and enough brake regen to comfortably and normally come to a complete stop in most driving conditions.
OPD
  • SIN's 1st law does not apply.
  • It takes more energy for a vehicle to start from rest than stay in motion (creep).
  • No driver engagement makes the driver lazy.
  • Discourages the driver to apply the brake to bring the vehicle to a stop.
  • Inoperative brakes will lead to failing brake components and getting rusty.
vs

NOPD or SOPD
  • SIN's 1st law applies and puts into practice.
  • Coast and or creep keep the vehicle stay in motion, conserving energy.
  • Keeping a moving vehicle stay in motion takes less energy than starting from rest.
  • Driver engagement makes the driver alert and prevents the driver from becoming lazy
  • Encourages the driver to apply the brake, if necessary, to bring the vehicle to a stop.
  • Operative brakes prevent the brake components from failing and getting rusty.
 
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OPD
  • Inoperative brakes will lead to the brake components getting rusty.
vs NOPD
  • Operative brakes prevent the brakes components from getting rust
Pressing the brake-pedal on an EV will merely engage the regen, unless you press it hard enough to tell the car regen is not enough. Friction-brakes get used the same amount (very little) on both.
 
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Another difference between our 2022 MME Premium SR AWD and 2022 ID.4 Pro S AWD is that, while both have the light grey interior option, in the VW it seems that really only applies to the seats themselves, while in the MME it's the seats but also the door inserts and the headliner that change to light grey. In our ID4, the door inserts and headliner remain dark grey/black.
 
#28 · (Edited)
VW ID.4 Pro S AWD vs Ford Mustang Mach E AWD SR (eqpt group 300A)
Parking: Tie. The VW has an amazingly tight turning radius while the MME is just fine/normal. But the MME parking sensors are quicker to turn on and react, and it has the 360-degree camera view.
Get your turning circle fact right! The ID.4 RWD & AWD turning circles beat the MME hands down.

ID.4 RWD & AWD
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#29 ·
Please reread my post. I acknowledge the superior turning radius of the ID4 ("amazingly tight") versus the MME ("normal"). But the ID4's slow-as-heck infotainment/center screen versus the MME's noticeably faster center screen means the distance indicators on the VW are often too slow to come up to be useful. Also, the MME has the 360-degree view which the VW does not, and the MME will at some point have auto parallel park (the chip is on COVID-related backorder). So I call it a tie. FWIW, my significant other rates the MME as easier to park overall.

Get your turning circle fact right! The ID.4 RWD & AWD turning circles beat the MME hands down.
 
#32 ·
I agree the ID4 headlines are amazing on the Pro S. I use the foul weather button on the dash to the left of the steering wheel to turn and keep on both left and right turning lights all the time. I need to pay more attention -- I haven't noticed the lights actually swiveling into turns like I have on other (non-VW) vehicles I've owned.
 
#40 ·
Now that the awd pro s plus I reserved almost a year ago has lost its 360 overhead, should I look at the Ford? When Will it come ?
 
#41 ·
The Mach E is out now and has been for a couple years. If you are thinking of the new MEB based Ford Explorer EV, that one won't be sold in the US. If you are looking to future models you probably want to add the Chevy Equinox EV to your compare / contrast list. I assume you are cross-shopping similarly sized vehicles that qualify for the Federal Tax Credit which would include the Tesla Model Y.

Which features are most important to you? If area view and / or automatic folding mirrors are a high priority then you need to look at the Mach E. If you really want heated rear seats and three zone climate control then you need to stick with the Pro S Plus. VW is certainly making it more difficult to argue for the ID.4 by removing the features from their top trim level.
 
#42 ·
IMO anyone shopping the higher trims of the ID4 should cross-shop the Mustang Mach-E and probably also the Model Y (and Kia EV and Hyundai Ioniq 5).

I suspect the MEB-based Explorer EV will be better than the ID4. Ford's electronics and infotainment are light-years ahead of VW's: PaaK (phone as key), rock-solid and instant mobile app (remote "start", etc), faster responding screen, etc.
 
#47 · (Edited)
One-Pedal Driving: Ford, hands down. It has true OPD and enough brake regen to comfortably and normally come to a complete stop in most driving conditions. This didn’t seem like a huge feature going in, but after having both, it became clear quickly that true OPD is a huge positive. One of two of the biggest surprises.
OPD vs NOPD
  • No SIN's vs SIN's 1st law
  • No driver engagement vs Driver engagement
  • Inoperative vs Operative brakes
  • Failing and rusty vs Working and non-rusty brake components
 
#48 ·
is there enough data to support claim that brakes rust and fail?
As of drivers engagement - let’s then go back to manual gear maybe?
It is same level of effort - release gradually acceleration to completely stop or release acceleration and then use brakes - imho former is more convenient and engaging, the latter is distracting.
 
#49 ·
We test drove the Mach E and had a few big issues…
  • Lack of storage spacewith the sloped roof, like the Model Y, it won’t hold a large dog crate or other large box
  • Lack of roof rails / trailer hitch, so no place to put the bike rack
  • Acceleration was to abrupt (Premium LR AWD) - the VW may be a little slower but it’s much smoother on and off
I liked the looks of the Mach E, but also like the looks of the ID.4 - they’re just different design philosophy. I liked the efficiency of the ID.4 better (Mach E needed much bigger battery to get similar range in real world testing), but liked the interior trim and infotainment better in the Mach E.

But the overriding factor was price! The long range Mach E was so expensive even back in 2021, that it wasn’t seriously considered for long.
 
#50 ·
VW ID.4 Pro S AWD vs Ford Mustang Mach E AWD SR (eqpt group 300A)

Owned both vehicles in the title for a while now and thought I'd do a quick comparo. Hope this might help someone deciding between.
You have not mentioned what model years or trim levels you purchased. With the rate of change this makes a HUGE difference. I drove an E-Mustang that was sold by it's owner and it was a very nice feeling vehicle, better than the Teslas (3 and Y) and more comfortable. I did not ask the previous owner if he was returning it for the door opening problem or not. I did not like it's lane keeping or one pedal throttle function. I also did not like how LOW the Ford was or how little cargo space it has. I prefer the better visibility of the VW which is by far better.

To be fair, the E-Mustang is a sedan while the ID.4 is an SUV.
... heavy weight known after that initial turn in if you try to hold speed through or accelerate out of a corner.
The turns around here are so high I can get penalized by my drive monitoring program that rewards good driving. However I have felt no problem with holding speeds or accelerating out of corners. On initial test drives of 2021 and 2022 models the single motor versions seemed to have a ponderous feeling to them where the dual motor models did not. On my 23 I don't detect any ponderous feel. One issue is that the ruts and breaks on I-81 cause a bouncy effect. And Lane Assist has at times messed up.
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One-Pedal Driving: Ford, hands down. It has true OPD and enough brake regen to comfortably and normally come to a complete stop in most driving conditions. This didn’t seem like a huge feature going in, but after having both, it became clear quickly that true OPD is a huge positive. One of two of the biggest surprises.
One pedal driving the way some makers use it is DANGEROUS. Some of the car review magazines note that using OPD to slow down can cause a rapid deceleration all the while NOT lighting the brake light. Two makers were given a do not buy recommendation because of it. The B mode on the ID.4, I believe, if activated gently will not light the brakes lights either. But at some g force (I forget what that is) it will light the brake lights. I consider this a hard stop if the brakes do not behave like the ID.4s do. ALSO: using Adaptive Cruise Control may not activate the brake lights. Some (unhinged, stupid, crazy fools) who tailgate may think this is brake checking and act poorly. ACC will recharge on slowing and will also come to a complete stop and resume if the stop is not to great. There are sections near me where this is a great help.
Driver Aids: Close. I find the LKA on the ID.4 overly sensitive and its corrections too harsh. The sensor can be fooled fairly easily, and it’s no fun to have an unexpected tug on the wheel in heavy rain or with snow/ice on the ground. It can also be a real issue on narrow lined roads: if there’s an oncoming large vehicle, I want to be able to casually drift my passenger side tires onto or even slightly over the edge line without having the car forcefully jerk me back (into the oncoming vehicle).
Sounds to me like your Lane Keeping Assist is different from mine. As stated in the Manual, you can gently cause the car to move against the lane assist if you want to. I do this regularly. I would NOT say that the ID.4 ever forcefully resists my repositioning.
The Ford’s seems less intrusive and safer. I don’t find myself regularly using the VW’s travel assist feature, and haven’t had the Ford on a longish drive on a highway that supports full Blue Cruise. Both’s adaptive cruise works well.
I found both Tesla and the Mustang's lane assist to be annoying and a pain. Tesla's one pedal regeneration is so harsh at the minimum level I see why a NO BUY recommendation has been made.
Headlights: edge to VW. Both vehicles have very good low beam headlights but the VW with the foul weather (turning/side) lights is excellent for driving in neighborhoods, around parked cars, and in general where you are concerned about cross people/bikes/etc.
...The VW has an amazingly tight turning radius while the MME is just fine/normal. But the MME parking sensors are quicker to turn on and react, and it has the 360-degree camera view.
It is often remarked on my reviewers and owners that the VW has a tighter turning circle.
Electronics: Hands down the MME. The Ford has PAK (phone as key) that works flawlessly with multiple phones/drivers.
The ID unlocks on approach if you have a key on you, and it is ON when you sit down.
Approach the MME with a paired phone and it’s just like you have a key fob in your pocket. And, you can just walk away and have the car automatically lock.
Functionally this is no change.
This was a surprise feature and even more of a surprise how convenient it is – the other of the two biggest surprises.[I've had auto unlock for years on several VW models.
Connecting, setting up, and switching devices is well….modern like and iPhone or iPad whereas the VW is a mess.
I had no issues with linking my cell phone.?QUOTE] The Ford has real buttons on the steering wheel for adjusting volume, changing track, etc. I hate the capacitive buttons all over the VW and haven’t gotten used to them in almost a year.
Took me a few days to readjust to the steering wheel controls. They could be better though.
The main center computer has had no bugs or issues while the VW’s has.
Mine does not and has not had any of the flaws that I've seen in other VW models, (this could change).
The Ford B&O stereo is superior in terms of solid, tight bass and clarity at higher volumes.
I cannot comment on this since I NEVER use the radio.
Both have wireless CarPlay which is how we use the system. While the Ford’s screen is bigger, I prefer the horizontal orientation and slight cant toward the driver of the VW.

Updates: Ford. We’ve had the VW almost a year and not gotten a single update or improvement to the software. In a month with the Ford we’ve already gotten one or two.
The 23 model has had a minor update since I got mine in that it no longer looks for the 2G or 3G networks to communicate. Took VW a while to fix that. Now it won't look any slower than 4K.
Mobile App: Hands down the MME. The VW app is slow and unreliable and has fewer features. The “upgrade” to the iOS app around 6 months ago was anything but – it now often requires manually re-inputting username/password and almost always requires re-entering a PIN. The MME app works flawlessly with FaceID. The Ford app also has better notifications – eg, when the vehicle is fully charged.
Mine is flawless. A problem that did occur is that the Itunes/IOS upgrade caused my Iphone to "go to sleep" and not answer calls with no warning. I had to have a new E-sim installed.
Charging: MME. The VW has weirdness with the charge rate between 9.6kW and 4.8kW while the Ford doesn’t allow setting a universal max charge amount.
Ford got into a LOT OF TROUBLE for putting an unchangeable max limit on recharging, as well as for the doors failing to open. Both should be resolved now.
That said, the Ford mobile app allows easily overriding a given location’s max charge to 100% instead.
Ford is the only maker I know of that hard coded an 80% max limit.
Both charge easily overnight on a L2 EVSE delivering 40A (ie, 50a circuit).
Mine charges at 48 Amps and over 40 miles per hour on my Emporia EVSE.
The tipping point is the charge port location of the Ford is superior (front driver fender versus rear passenger quarter panel).
I see no preference one way or another.
Range: Tie (see details). The VW has more range versus the standard range (ie, smaller battery option) Ford. However, we find ourselves renting an ICE vehicle for long road trips, so the VW’s extra range and EA network and free supercharging aren’t a factor for us.
The FREE THREE year EA charging is a huge factor if a person can spend ZERO on driving. There are enough 350KW chargers that any stopping time is minimal. Unless you are time constrained, I find you decision to rent an ICE for trips to be strange. And I also don't like rental cars since it takes time to truly know a vehicles feel and to drive it to it's best performance and safety levels.

While you experiences are radically different from mine, this could be due to different production years and/or trim levels.