[boyelectric]

That is surprisingly close to the current design - either they have not progressed much since 2001 or the 2001 design was epically ahead of its time!

Lol... no one believes me when I say that this design has been well over 20 years in the making! It just shows how "retro" designs can be somewhat timeless.

 

[Jon B. Ross]

Lol... no one believes me when I say that this design has been well over 20 years in the making! It just shows how "retro" designs can be somewhat timeless.

Sure does - the original designer should be cheesed off if the current one ends up taking all the credit, because, really, it is like adding a moustache to the Mona Lisa and claiming it is an original painting...

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

In the US there is no competition so the price could be even higher!

No, just to the opposite, minivan market is shrinking and nobody buys them. If it sells for a F150 lightening price, why would I get this less room, less powerful van instead?

 

[Jon B. Ross]

No, just to the opposite, minivan market is shrinking and nobody buys them. If it sells for a F150 lightening price, why would I get this less room, less powerful van instead?

You should see it more as a work van / mini-bus / camper van (eventually) offering.

If I wanted the aforementioned, why would I get an F150 Lightning?

 

[YowVil]

No, just to the opposite, minivan market is shrinking and nobody buys them. If it sells for a F150 lightening price, why would I get this less room, less powerful van instead?

You would buy it if you want to carry more than 5 people. The cargo version isn't coming to the US

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

You should see it more as a work van / mini-bus / camper van (eventually) offering.

If I wanted the aforementioned, why would I get an F150 Lightning?

What I mentioned is just the fact of where the market is going, it doesn't matter for each individual's choice. Plus ford is making an EV transit which is a lot bigger and provide a lot more room for the usage you've mentioned above.

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

You would buy it if you want to carry more than 5 people. The cargo version isn't coming to the US

Maybe, until when ford makes an EV expedition based on the lightening, which I think they would.

 

[YowVil]

Maybe, until when ford makes an EV expedition based on the lightening, which I think they would.

It's pretty hard to discuss and compare cars that don't exist.

 

[artgpo]

The minivan market (prior to chip shortage) was getting stronger. Hence the new offerings from Toyota, Kia and now VW.

 

[Dougie01]

Before you get too excited about the F-150 Lightning, see if it will fit in your garage. They are huge!

 

[MikeQBF]

Before you get too excited about the F-150 Lightning, see if it will fit in your garage. They are huge!

So is my Transit. I don't see an issue here. From a bad experience exposing a similar large vehicle to the weather full-time, I had a garage built to house it. The garage cost half of what I paid for the van. The rust gods will be kept at bay.

 

[7S POWER]

OMG the frunk (or lack thereof)! I kinda love it because it's so clear why there's no space there.

Whether there's space or not, no frunk is needed! The frunk and its structure add unnecessary weight ahead of the front axle. This will make the vehicle handles more like an FWD than an RWD!

 

[SulfuricOlive]

If I were to buy a truck I'd also prefer no frunk. Having a double cab standard bed in the same footprint as an ICE double cab short bed would be pretty nice. You could always have some storage under the rear seats, or a locking tool box in the bed.

 

[RobertS]

More first drives seem to be going on in Europe.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1560140903515389953

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1560249310108962816

 

[RobertS]

The ID.Buzz's press tour continues!

http://instagr.am/p/ChnC8qsKgnU/
Translated from German:

Two great days, two great vehicles and many competent and nice people. This is how work is really fun! With the #idbuzz and the #idbuzzcargo on a press tour in Copenhagen and the surrounding area. Are you already so excited about this cool electric speedster?

 

[Tim53]

But as the late John Muir (author of “how to keep your Volkswagen alive”) said about safety equipment: “If we all drove around like we were strapped to the front bumper like Aztec sacrifices, there’s be a helluva lot less accidents”