[NadoGray]

I switched my ID4 AWD order to RWD once I learned that the AWD has a greater turning circle (36.4' vs 33.5).

Here is my question. I want a car that will allow me to enter my garage in a single approach. The garage sits perpendicular to an alley that is 22 ft wide. There is a block wall across from my garage. The ID4 is 7 ft wide (83" including the mirrors). I would like a 1 ft. leeway between the wall and the ID4 as I drive down the alley to access my garage. Based on no other criteria, did I make the right choice? Are there any math experts in the group?

 

[Spin]

I am guessing that the garage is on the alley so you have 22' from the wall to the garage door? If that is the case, the radius of the turning circle of the AWD would be a little over 18'. It looks like it will work. From your picture, it looks like you checked it out already with a RWD. Maybe do the same with an AWD?

 

[Huey52]

Yep, some math in that one, so will leave to those who more enjoy same. But I will reiterate that my ID.4 RWD has the tightest turn radius of any vehicle I've ever owned (my daughter's Mini is comparable). Still amazes me with this prowess!

I took my dealership's demo vehicle home during a 2-hour solo test drive just to test out garage fitment, EVSE placement, etc. Ask for same.

 

[TimPS]

I guess his issue is that there are no AWD testers at this moment. I have a VW Jetta GLI from 2015. It's the same turning radius as the AWD ID.4. Maybe test drive a car that has a similar turning circle. Otherwise, math it is...

 

[ericy]

Yep, some math in that one, so will leave to those who more enjoy same. But I will reiterate that my ID.4 RWD has the tightest turn radius of any vehicle I've ever owned (my daughter's Mini is comparable).

We were out to dinner with neighbors last night - I needed to make a U-turn at one point, and he was amazed that I could just whip the thing around in the space available.

 

[Mrpmg]

This is always a tricky measurement, and doesn’t seem to be standardized very well for reporting by manufacturers. There are actually two different measurements: curb-to-curb and wall-to-wall. The first would be applicable to turning in a street, where your concern would be not damaging the rims on your low profile tires. The second, more applicable to your question, is variable due to different overhang lengths, and your concern would be not scraping the bumper covers at any of the car’s corners. It’s uncertain which measurement manufacturers use in their marketing materials. As suggested, bring the car to your home, and give it a try.

 

[Spin]

If you still have access to the RWD car, you can do a test with that. Find an empty parking lot with a straight marked line, at least 36.4' long. Mark that distance out on that line, and by trial and error get as close to that mark as you can. Note the position of the steering wheel when you are satisfied. Try getting into the garage with the steering wheel in that position. This is not the most scientific but you should glean enough information to make a decision.

 

[LieutenantLefse]

I won't attempt the math but I will say I have a very similar garage setup, perpendicular to a narrow alley, and I use every last bit of that RWD turning radius to make it in one go. Also my garage has a couple feet of wiggle room on the sides since the garage is wider than the door, so I can angle it in a bit before straightening out. Looks like you don't have much room on the sides for that. Even though the AWD has a 18' turning radius and the alley is 22', the car is more than 4' long so you'll be partway in the garage before fully straightening out.

 

[NadoGray]

This is always a tricky measurement, and doesn’t seem to be standardized very well for reporting by manufacturers. There are actually two different measurements: curb-to-curb and wall-to-wall. The first would be applicable to turning in a street, where your concern would be not damaging the rims on your low profile tires. The second, more applicable to your question, is variable due to different overhang lengths, and your concern would be not scraping the bumper covers at any of the car’s corners. It’s uncertain which measurement manufacturers use in their marketing materials. As suggested, bring the car to your home, and give it a try.

Good point about the overhang. Somehow the width of the car must enter into the equation I think, but not sure how. I know my present car with a 38.6 turning circle is a pain and I tried a Model Y with a 39.8 turning circle and it seemed much worse.

 

[NadoGray]

I won't attempt the math but I will say I have a very similar garage setup, perpendicular to a narrow alley, and I use every last bit of that RWD turning radius to make it in one go. Also my garage has a couple feet of wiggle room on the sides since the garage is wider than the door, so I can angle it in a bit before straightening out. Looks like you don't have much room on the sides for that. Even though the AWD has a 18' turning radius and the alley is 22', the car is more than 4' long so you'll be partway in the garage before fully straightening out.

I guess I could clean out junk on the sides of my garage . . . .

 

[Spin]

I guess I could clean out junk on the sides of my garage . . . .

Good point about the overhang. Somehow the width of the car must enter into the equation I think, but not sure how. I know my present car with a 38.6 turning circle is a pain and I tried a Model Y with a 39.8 turning circle and it seemed much worse.

If your present car is 38.6 an AWD will be over 2' better. The width of the car does not matter. The turning circle is measured from the outboard side of the front wheel.

 

[7S POWER]

Here is my question. I want a car that will allow me to enter my garage in a single approach. The garage sits perpendicular to an alley that is 22 ft wide. There is a block wall across from my garage. The ID4 is 7 ft wide (83" including the mirrors). I would like a 1 ft. leeway between the wall and the ID4 as I drive down the alley to access my garage. Based on no other criteria, did I make the right choice? Are there any math experts in the group?

From the picture of your double-car single garage door, and I used my house garage door as a ref.
1) Garage door width - 16'
2) Garage O/L width - 18-20'
3) Driveway O/L width - 18-20'

Here's what I roughly came up with

There's s/b plenty of room to swing your ID.4 RWD or AWD around to enter/exit the garage w/o any issues.

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[JimmyVW]

Could also test it with a RWD, just turn the steering wheel full lock left and you’ll see that with an RWD the center spike will sit at a 135 degree angle from horizontal. With the AWD, full lock will be 90 degrees with the center spoke exactly vertical. If you keep that limit as a reference, you’d know if it fits or not

more info:

 

[7S POWER]

Could also test it with a RWD, just turn the steering wheel full lock left and you’ll see that with an RWD the center spike will sit at a 135 degree angle from horizontal. With the AWD, full lock will be 90 degrees with the center spoke exactly vertical. If you keep that limit as a reference, you’d know if it fits or not

more info:

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If you did, though, you'd find both the steering ratio and heft to be well judged. There isn't much feedback, but electric assist has made that largely par for the course these days. It's easy to place the ID.4 precisely in cornering, and there's no need to constantly correct in-lane—you just don't think about it. The best part might be the turning radius, though. Placement of the steering rack ahead of the front-wheel centerline results in an exceptional 36.4-foot figure, not quite as tight as the RWD car's 33.5 feet but still great.

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Turning Diameter, curb to curb (feet) by C&D
ID.4 RWD - 33.5
ID.4 GTX AWD - 36.4
MY AWD - 39.8
Mach E - All - 38.1, GT - 39.7 - Ford data.

Power on, chime on, the steering wheel turned full right locked

Fog lights flashed, power off, chime off, hands off the steering wheel, and the wheel moved away from its locked position.
He should have held the steering wheel before turned the power off. That way steering wheel stays locked in its position.

That's the front driveshaft. And to the left of that is the Rzepa CV Joint. That's not the control rod

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[fiehlsport]

7S - what is your day job?

 

[Spin]

From the picture of your double-car single garage door, and use my house garage door as ref.
1) Garage door width - 16'
2) Garage O/L width - 18-20'
3) Driveway O/L width - 18-20'

Here's what I roughly came up with
View attachment 6109
There's s/b plenty of room to swing your ID.4 RWD or AWD around to enter/exit the garage w/o any issues.

7S POWER

Turning circle is measured from the outboard front wheel.
From Wikipedia:
On wheeled vehicles with the common type of front wheel steering (i.e. one, two or even four wheels at the front capable of steering), the vehicle's turning diameter is a measure of the space needed to turn the vehicle around while the steering is set to its maximum displacement from the central 'straight ahead' position - i.e. either extreme left or right. If a theoretical marker pen was placed on the point of the vehicle furthest from the center of the turn, it would draw a circle and the diameter of that circle would give the value of that vehicle's turning diameter.

 

[NadoGray]

From the picture of your double-car single garage door, and use my house garage door as ref.
1) Garage door width - 16'
2) Garage O/L width - 18-20'
3) Driveway O/L width - 18-20'

Here's what I roughly came up with
View attachment 6109
There's s/b plenty of room to swing your ID.4 RWD or AWD around to enter/exit the garage w/o any issues.

7S POWER

Thank you. I appreciate the drawings. That is what I was looking for. I hope it helps others, as well.

 

[xXChartmanXx]

All I can say is the RWD ID.4 has a ridiculously good turning radius. Better than any car I have ever driven. Just slightly worse then that for the AWD should be more then adequate I would guess.

 

[7S POWER]

Thank you. I appreciate the drawings. That is what I was looking for. I hope it helps others, as well.

You're welcome.

Cheers,

7S POWER

 

[7S POWER]

..... the AWD should be more then adequate I would guess.

Seriously just more than adequate?

Turning Diameter, curb to curb (feet) by C&D:
ID.4 GTX AWD - 36.4' vs MY -3.4', vs Mach E All -2.0', Mach E GT -3.3'
MY AWD - 39.8'
Mach E - All - 38.1', except GT - 39.7' - Ford data.

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