Nice wheels but the stock ones work for me.
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I know I've seen lots of posts of different ID4s with aftermarket or OE wheels, but maybe we can centralize that as a resource for everyone to refer to what may or may not fit?
Another issue that seems to get brought up is load ratings and wheel composition.
I've got the 19" Hamar wheels, and have been looking at a couple Rotiform options (19" vs 20") both with 1600 LB capacity per wheel. And both 8.5," wide with a 35ET. I believe I've seen others with a similar setup?
Also, if you're going to post, please post pictures and specs.
I'm waiting for my 10k service to talk to my dealer about installing the H&R lowering springs.
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Thanks!
Another issue that seems to get brought up is load ratings and wheel composition.
I've got the 19" Hamar wheels, and have been looking at a couple Rotiform options (19" vs 20") both with 1600 LB capacity per wheel. And both 8.5," wide with a 35ET. I believe I've seen others with a similar setup?
Also, if you're going to post, please post pictures and specs.
I'm waiting for my 10k service to talk to my dealer about installing the H&R lowering springs.
Thanks!
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This is the rim that the guy on our street has been using with Michelin cc2 and squared off tires and says it all works great without any loss but very much more comfortable than the original 20" setup ,rims are Touren TR75
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Has anyone with aftermarket wheels given any thought to the wheel bolts they'll be using?
Most aftermarket wheels use conical bolts vs OEM uses ball seat bolts. Where it get's tricky is that VW equips the ID4 with "two piece" wheel bolts. Meaning there's a washer between the bolt and the wheel. They outline in the owners manual that two piece wheel bolts must be used...
Factory wheel bolt:
Theoretically, the advantage of using wheel bolts with washers is that is provides a more accurate torquing application and avoids damage to the wheel surface over time. I can see this being very important with the weight of vehicle and the size of the wheels.
My previous vehicles were much lighter, and with smaller wheels (mk2 GTI and B6 A4) and I never had to give any thought to vehicle load and wheel bolt requirements. I noticed that my wife's Q5 also has this style of factory two piece bolt.
I've ordered conical bolts with washers after alot of searching as they're harder to find.
I tend to overthink alot of things, and I'm hoping that this is one of those instances where I'm right and it's worth the peace of mind.
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Most aftermarket wheels use conical bolts vs OEM uses ball seat bolts. Where it get's tricky is that VW equips the ID4 with "two piece" wheel bolts. Meaning there's a washer between the bolt and the wheel. They outline in the owners manual that two piece wheel bolts must be used...
Factory wheel bolt:
Theoretically, the advantage of using wheel bolts with washers is that is provides a more accurate torquing application and avoids damage to the wheel surface over time. I can see this being very important with the weight of vehicle and the size of the wheels.
My previous vehicles were much lighter, and with smaller wheels (mk2 GTI and B6 A4) and I never had to give any thought to vehicle load and wheel bolt requirements. I noticed that my wife's Q5 also has this style of factory two piece bolt.
I've ordered conical bolts with washers after alot of searching as they're harder to find.
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I tend to overthink alot of things, and I'm hoping that this is one of those instances where I'm right and it's worth the peace of mind.
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wow I didn't know this was a thing.. I hope someone can chime in because I am literally about to bolt some standard conical bolts onto the rotiforms on TuesdayHas anyone with aftermarket wheels given any thought to the wheel bolts they'll be using?
Most aftermarket wheels use conical bolts vs OEM uses ball seat bolts. Where it get's tricky is that VW equips the ID4 with "two piece" wheel bolts. Meaning there's a washer between the bolt and the wheel. They outline in the owners manual that two piece wheel bolts must be used...
Factory wheel bolt:
Theoretically, the advantage of using wheel bolts with washers is that is provides a more accurate torquing application and avoids damage to the wheel surface over time. I can see this being very important with the weight of vehicle and the size of the wheels.
My previous vehicles were much lighter, and with smaller wheels (mk2 GTI and B6 A4) and I never had to give any thought to vehicle load and wheel bolt requirements. I noticed that my wife's Q5 also has this style of factory two piece bolt.
I've ordered conical bolts with washers after alot of searching as they're harder to find.
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I tend to overthink alot of things, and I'm hoping that this is one of those instances where I'm right and it's worth the peace of mind.
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This video is probably the best explanation I've seen:
And another link I found:
www.exoticcargear.com
Based on everything I've been able to find I've noticed that Audi/VW/Porsche use 2 piece wheel bolts on all their heavy cars (Q5,Q7,Cayenne, etc). The benefits are that you get a truer tightening torque because the washer allows the the bolt to tighten while the washer clamps. This also keeps the wheel from getting galled/scraped by the bolt so it's aesthetic, but perhaps beneficial to the wheel bolt hole integrity over time. They also say that.one piece still get the job done.
If it was a serious concern, I would see more aftermarket companies making it available...
But, I also don't want to find out. So I personally got the two piece bolts. Unfortunately I got them after I had already purchased one piece bolts.
Mcgard sells a set with locks and they can be had next day with Amazon.
McGard 67200 Chrome M14 x 1.5 Thread Size Cone Seat Lug Bolt Wheel Installation Kit for 5 Lug Vehicles https://a.co/d/0xssFbU
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And another link I found:
Porsche Titanium Wheel Bolts With Polished Finish - Exotic Car Gear, Inc.
Exotic Car Gear's Porsche 911 - 991 - 997 - 996 -981 - Boxster - Cayman - Panamera Titanium Wheel Bolts, Polished Finish Will fit all OEM standard wheels. Wheel Bolt heads are Hot Forged for higher strength -vs - machined head Rolled threads for greater fatigue resistance and avoiding galling...
www.exoticcargear.com
Two Piece Lug Bolts? - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
996 GT2/GT3 Forum - Two Piece Lug Bolts? - This may be a silly question but, why does Porsche require the use of the two piece lug bolts? And what is the function of the secondary piece? There are suppliers making one piece replacements and seems everyone gets all weirded out at the suggestion...
rennlist.com
Based on everything I've been able to find I've noticed that Audi/VW/Porsche use 2 piece wheel bolts on all their heavy cars (Q5,Q7,Cayenne, etc). The benefits are that you get a truer tightening torque because the washer allows the the bolt to tighten while the washer clamps. This also keeps the wheel from getting galled/scraped by the bolt so it's aesthetic, but perhaps beneficial to the wheel bolt hole integrity over time. They also say that.one piece still get the job done.
If it was a serious concern, I would see more aftermarket companies making it available...
But, I also don't want to find out. So I personally got the two piece bolts. Unfortunately I got them after I had already purchased one piece bolts.
Mcgard sells a set with locks and they can be had next day with Amazon.
McGard 67200 Chrome M14 x 1.5 Thread Size Cone Seat Lug Bolt Wheel Installation Kit for 5 Lug Vehicles https://a.co/d/0xssFbU
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are you in Canada? the link took me to Amazon Canada and they cost $200 from there. but I think I found the same item in Amazon US for $98. thanks for all the info, I think I will order these too:This video is probably the best explanation I've seen:
And another link I found:
Porsche Titanium Wheel Bolts With Polished Finish - Exotic Car Gear, Inc.
Exotic Car Gear's Porsche 911 - 991 - 997 - 996 -981 - Boxster - Cayman - Panamera Titanium Wheel Bolts, Polished Finish Will fit all OEM standard wheels. Wheel Bolt heads are Hot Forged for higher strength -vs - machined head Rolled threads for greater fatigue resistance and avoiding galling...
Two Piece Lug Bolts? - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
996 GT2/GT3 Forum - Two Piece Lug Bolts? - This may be a silly question but, why does Porsche require the use of the two piece lug bolts? And what is the function of the secondary piece? There are suppliers making one piece replacements and seems everyone gets all weirded out at the suggestion...rennlist.com
Based on everything I've been able to find I've noticed that Audi/VW/Porsche use 2 piece wheel bolts on all their heavy cars (Q5,Q7,Cayenne, etc). The benefits are that you get a truer tightening torque because the washer allows the the bolt to tighten while the washer clamps. This also keeps the wheel from getting galled/scraped by the bolt so it's aesthetic, but perhaps beneficial to the wheel bolt hole integrity over time. They also say that.one piece still get the job done.
If it was a serious concern, I would see more aftermarket companies making it available...
But, I also don't want to find out. So I personally got the two piece bolts. Unfortunately I got them after I had already purchased one piece bolts.
Mcgard sells a set with locks and they can be had next day with Amazon.
McGard 67200 Chrome M14 x 1.5 Thread Size Cone Seat Lug Bolt Wheel Installation Kit for 5 Lug Vehicles https://a.co/d/0xssFbU
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McGard 67200 Chrome M14 x 1.5 Thread Size Cone Seat Lug Bolt Wheel Installation Kit for 5 Lug Vehicles, 16 Lug Bolts / 4 Locks / 1 Key / 1 Storage Pouch https://a.co/d/biyPZUm
EDIT: the only thing is i think they only come in the default 28mm shank size. I was planning on purchasing some spacers in the future, and i cant find them making any other size other than the 28mm. i wish they sold them in singles just like the way H&R does with their bolts (which are not 2 piece ofcourse). after watching the videos you posted it does seem like the one piece should be fine. Maybe longetivity on the bolts won't be as good, but i could always replace the bolts more easily.
Pulled the trigger.
Rotiform LHR-M
19"x8.5" et 35
Should only be 1mm poke when compared to 20"x 9" Drammen wheels.
1600lb wheel load
Hoping to mount the tires in the next few weeks and update the thread about fitment and ride
Hey Audiwagen,
I know this is an older post, but did you ever finish installing the Rotoforms, lower the car, etc?
Would love to see pics and feedback ;-)
I'm considering just doing stock "Electra" wheels in black, with 12mm spacers and a mild drop. I wasn't aware they were doing 2 piece bolts, glad I found this post.
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I did a quick Photoshop to see what it would look like, I also did the roof and mirror caps in black.
This is not my car, but I have the same color and specs.
Thanks,
Brady
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