When will 2022 model year start showing up at dealers in US?
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Feb.-Mar. 2022, From this 2 days ago thread of same topic:
Since getting them shipped to dealers takes 6-11 weeks after production. If you put in your reservation now, most are getting a May delivery.This site says that as of 8-30-21 the ID.4 2022 production will begin on 12-20-21:
Volkswagen (Build Out Final Order Start Up Dates) – Donlen
www.donlen.com
It likely depends upon the trim level too. I have an AWD Pro on order. The e-mail says that I could likely get a Pro S with the gradient package earlier, which is supposed to start to be available in October. That would be a 2021, but it looks like higher end trim levels may be given preferential treatment. I was told that if I keep my current choices, I will be updated on a schedule at the beginning of next year. Even then, it says it may be a 2022, so I don't know what year I will eventually be offered. With the change in year, the fine print says that price, options, and specifications may change.
Nobody knows yet since VW is keeping very quiet about what the 2022 changes will be, or how they deal with the estimated 10,000 existing reservations.
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I asked a local dealer just that question, and he said after three more shipments to the US. I am just not sure how to digest that exactly, and didn't inquire with any further questions. Starting when? How many vehicles fit on these ships? What is the schedule?Anyone have any inside information on when the 2022 models will show up at the dealers? If I have to pay list I don't want one that is a year old.
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Don't wait. By Fall VW will have likely met it's 200k vehicle sales as Audi us included in equation. Bye bye 7500k Tax Credit.
As far as I know, the credits do not instantly disappear at 200k. There is a sunset period.
No, I believe it is done by "name plate" or make, not buy corporate owner. VW is separate from Audi for purposes of the rebate.
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VW of America, Audi of America, and Porsche North America sales are not all lumped together for purposes of the tax credit because they are all subsidiaries and separate business entities in the U.S. They are all owned by Volkswagen AG (VAG), but considered to be separate manufacturers for puposes of the U.S. federal tax credit.
It comes down to the legal difference between a subsidiary and a division of a larger company. A division is a part of a larger business entity. This means that a division, although it operates in a different name, is still a smaller piece of the larger entity itself. On the other hand, a subsidiary is an entirely different company that is owned by another, usually bigger, entity.
As a contrast to the VW/Audi/Porsche situation, consider Lexus vs. Toyota of America. Lexus isn't a subsidiary, but rather a division of Toyota of America and thus not a separate business entity. Therefore, Lexus and Toyota brand EV sales are all lumped together under the single manufacturer (Toyota of America) for purposes of the tax credit.
By the way, here's the official information about what vehicles are eligible according to the IRS:
IRC 30D New Qualified Plug-In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit | Internal Revenue Service
And by the way, the tax credit gradually phases out over a period of time after a manufacturer has passed 200,000 cumulative sales. VWofA sold less than 20,000 e-Golfs in the U.S. between 2015 and 2019. Add just over 17,000 ID.4s last year and their cumulative U.S. EV sales are now around, say, 36-37k. Let's be optimistic and say they triple ID.4 U.S. sales in 2022 to 51,000. So at the end of 2022, let's say they're around 85-95k cumulative sales. In 2023, they'd have to sell over 100k EVs in the U.S. for the tax credit to start to phase out. With the Chattanooga plant coming online for the 2023 MY, that is definitely a realistic possibility, but who really knows what the production numbers will be there? This is just me speculating, but I don't see the tax credit for VW EVs to begin phasing out until late 2023 or early 2024 at the earliest.
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