[Dutchy Ron]

VW is using Microsoft Azure, MSFT MCVP and Cariad MSFT is using TomTom as map provider. Who provides the maps for the ID4 and will send the updates OTA? TomTom, HERE, Cariad in house maps or another party?

 

[ID.Furkan]

and the latest wecharge app is using google maps. so Android Automotive soon? Wishfull thinking here

Good luck with your search.

I would bet on tomtom, but really slow with giving detours.. so dunno. its not the premium variant atleast.

 

[phands]

We've given up on the ID.4 built-in navigation after 6 weeks of ownership. It's almost unusable.

Android Auto works great, though. I tend to avoid anything microsoft, as I'm in the computing industry.

 

[Unik42]

VW ID series uses Here Maps.

 

[Dutchy Ron]

VW ID series uses Here Maps.

see deal MSFT with TomTom

Microsoft partners with TomTom to take on HERE and AWS partnership (updated) - MSPoweruser

Back in 2016, TomTom first announced a partnership with Microsoft to bring enterprise-grade location-based services to Azure, based on TomTom’s maps, traffic and navigation software. Last year, Amazon AWS and HERE location platform announced a major partnership to offer developers access to an...

www.google.nl

see deal MSFT with VW

see the architecture of VW Cariad

that
clarifies that I think VW will switch from HERE to TomTom

 

[Mike Bouck]

My personal opinion is that the current ID OS is a stop-gap solution until they bring the unified CARIAD architecture online over the next several years. In the near future this means they are limited to doing things like We Charge, etc. whose functionality should be integrated into the navigation sub-system itself but isn't because of "reasons". I believe this will happen, however, in the medium-term - likely by a complete rewrite of the navigation sub-system (at which point We Charge goes away). Remember that Tesla's software sucked at the beginning as well - they'll get there. In the meantime I'll use ABRP/EVNotify.

 

[Simon Smith’s]

As a VW ID4 1st edition owner ( California, San Jose ) with several difficulties with my onboard system I can tell you it’s Tomtom. On the 21st of september I received after help of my local dealer new updates from Tomtom if I remember correctly Traffic Index.
Hope my information and experiences are useful for you. My dealer is Capitol VW 911-A Capitol Expressway Auto Mall • San Jose, CA 95136

 

[Dutchy Ron]

As a VW ID4 1st edition owner ( California, San Jose ) with several difficulties with my onboard system I can tell you it’s Tomtom. On the 21st of september I received after help of my local dealer new updates from Tomtom if I remember correctly Traffic Index.
Hope my information and experiences are useful for you. My dealer is Capitol VW 911-A Capitol Expressway Auto Mall • San Jose, CA 95136

thanks, but traffic info and updates are not the same as the map updates. TomTom is de world leader in Traffic Info. Because MSFT is using TomTom en VW is using MSFT MCVP and Azure I assume VW is using TomTom as well. But VW has a stake in HERE like Audi Daimler and BMW.

 

[phands]

see deal MSFT with TomTom

Microsoft partners with TomTom to take on HERE and AWS partnership (updated) - MSPoweruser

Back in 2016, TomTom first announced a partnership with Microsoft to bring enterprise-grade location-based services to Azure, based on TomTom’s maps, traffic and navigation software. Last year, Amazon AWS and HERE location platform announced a major partnership to offer developers access to an...

www.google.nl

see deal MSFT with VW

see the architecture of VW Cariad
View attachment 5815 that
clarifies that I think VW will switch from HERE to TomTom

The use of Microsoft explains why the ID.4 software is so flaky. Sadly, based on 30+ years on the software industry, it probably means it's unfixable.

 

[JD.4]

Tried using the built-in twice so far. Neither time could it find the address. Fired up AA and no issues.

 

[Nai3t]

I'm my i3 a little notation pops up to say "nav by HERE Technologies" or when I do a voice POI search "results by Google." I can't say I've ever seen something similar on the ID.4's screen (but probably because I'm always using AA in the VW, whereas I use stock nav in the BMW). You'd think the nav provider would have their name shown somewhere by contact.

 

[Simon Smith’s]

thanks, but traffic info and updates are not the same as the map updates. TomTom is de world leader in Traffic Info. Because MSFT is using TomTom en VW is using MSFT MCVP and Azure I assume VW is using TomTom as well. But VW has a stake in HERE like Audi Daimler and BMW.

Mr Ron, I am obviously not as well informed as you are. My recently purchased ID4 has for as I know Tomtom traffic navigation. Because of the recent problems with my system I invested a little about the Tomtom company.
Tomtom is in my eyes known for there mobile devices but surprised to see they also have in car software.
Coming week I again visit my dealer and will ask a printout from the car system specs.
You triggered my curiosity about the system used in my car.
Are you connected to the Tomtom company? Sorry to ask mr Ron as I noticed your from the same country as Tomtom company.

 

[Dutchy Ron]

Mr Ron, I am obviously not as well informed as you are. My recently purchased ID4 has for as I know Tomtom traffic navigation. Because of the recent problems with my system I invested a little about the Tomtom company.
Tomtom is in my eyes known for there mobile devices but surprised to see they also have in car software.
Coming week I again visit my dealer and will ask a printout from the car system specs.
You triggered my curiosity about the system used in my car.
Are you connected to the Tomtom company? Sorry to ask mr Ron as I noticed your from the same country as Tomtom company.

Indeed, I’m from the Netherlands, but not working for TomTom. I’m an investor in TomTom stocks on the Dutch stock exchange and interested in electric verhicles and self driving cars in general. Because the communication (IR) of TomTom is very bad, I try to find out if TomTom is taking over market share of HERE. If VW will switch from HERE to VW for the (OTA) HD maps and their ADAS the revenue of TomTom will increase, also the price of TomTom’s stocks,

Everyone knows TomTom from the PND on the front window of their cars. But TomTom has a 60% market share for HD-map’s which can be pushed over the air to the connected verhicles. Like I said, MSFT Azure is using TomTom as wel in their services and API’s, also Microsoft MCVP. Both are used by VW coming years. So I tried to make the puzzle before VW and TomTom announce that TomTom is providing the HD Maps for the VW ID-family in Europe and US. ;-)

 

[Simon Smith’s]

Indeed, I’m from the Netherlands, but not working for TomTom. I’m an investor in TomTom stocks on the Dutch stock exchange and interested in electric verhicles and self driving cars in general. Because the communication (IR) of TomTom is very bad, I try to find out if TomTom is taking over market share of HERE. If VW will switch from HERE to VW for the (OTA) HD maps and their ADAS the revenue of TomTom will increase, also the price of TomTom’s stocks,

Everyone knows TomTom from the PND on the front window of their cars. But TomTom has a 60% market share for HD-map’s which can be pushed over the air to the connected verhicles. Like I said, MSFT Azure is using TomTom as wel in their services and API’s, also Microsoft MCVP. Both are used by VW coming years. So I tried to make the puzzle before VW and TomTom announce that TomTom is providing the HD Maps for the VW ID-family in Europe and US. ;-)

Mr Ron thank you for drawing my attention to the stock of Tomtom. I invested pretty big in Workhorse group inc but that’s quite a newbie compare to Tomtom.
Might you can look into that stock as well as your interested in electric verhicles and self driving cars.
After deepen myself into the Tomtom company you could be right that Tomtom is an unknown gem and obviously an underrated stock. Can you imagine supplying maps for MSFT, Apple, Huawei and many others.
The stock is just extremely hard to find and unknown here in the United States.
I switched half of my Workhorse stock to Tomtom thanks again for the eye opener.
As a stock holder you might noticed my transaction because my broker had difficulties finishing my order but succeeded to buy 32k stocks of TOM2.
Is there a forum to get updated on the stock of tomtom I checked on Yahoo finance but the latest update there is 3 weeks ago.

 

[igniztion]

The use of Microsoft explains why the ID.4 software is so flaky. Sadly, based on 30+ years on the software industry, it probably means it's unfixable.

Microsoft has come a looong way the last few years. Their services are on par, if not better than most competitors within cloud infrastructure and computing.

 

[igniztion]

I have fixed some errors in the maps on mapcreator.here.com which I discovered while using the in-car navigation. Mostly related to speed limits. No doubt that they use Here maps currently.

 

[Dutchy Ron]

Mr Ron thank you for drawing my attention to the stock of Tomtom. I invested pretty big in Workhorse group inc but that’s quite a newbie compare to Tomtom.
Might you can look into that stock as well as your interested in electric verhicles and self driving cars.
After deepen myself into the Tomtom company you could be right that Tomtom is an unknown gem and obviously an underrated stock. Can you imagine supplying maps for MSFT, Apple, Huawei and many others.
The stock is just extremely hard to find and unknown here in the United States.
I switched half of my Workhorse stock to Tomtom thanks again for the eye opener.
As a stock holder you might noticed my transaction because my broker had difficulties finishing my order but succeeded to buy 32k stocks of TOM2.
Is there a forum to get updated on the stock of tomtom I checked on Yahoo finance but the latest update there is 3 weeks ago.

Tom2 is hard to find, founders of TomTom own almost 50% of the shares. Stellantis (former FCA and PSA) are also using TomTom in car maps for all their UConnect5 and ADAS, same as Kia and Hyundai.

There is a Dutch forum of Tom2, maybe it’s time to open a Tom2 forum in Reddit. I bet the price of the shares will increase if other investors know more about Tom2 and their role in autonomous driving.

 

[Mike Bouck]

thanks, but traffic info and updates are not the same as the map updates. TomTom is de world leader in Traffic Info. Because MSFT is using TomTom en VW is using MSFT MCVP and Azure I assume VW is using TomTom as well. But VW has a stake in HERE like Audi Daimler and BMW.

I find it very interesting that the latest ID OS app, We Charge, is using Google Maps so clearly VAG has rethought its approach to a certain extent.

 

[Damon Trueitt]

Mr Ron, I am obviously not as well informed as you are. My recently purchased ID4 has for as I know Tomtom traffic navigation. Because of the recent problems with my system I invested a little about the Tomtom company.
Tomtom is in my eyes known for there mobile devices but surprised to see they also have in car software.
Coming week I again visit my dealer and will ask a printout from the car system specs.
You triggered my curiosity about the system used in my car.
Are you connected to the Tomtom company? Sorry to ask mr Ron as I noticed your from the same country as Tomtom company.

TomTom itself is a good starting point

The blog has different sections from autonomous driving to other usecases
TomTom Blog

If you wanna go really in depth on a certain topic, you can re-watch webinars after registering
These are actually visited mostly by customers like carmakers
Webinars | TomTom

TomTom products are in all Stellantis cars, including Peugeot 308 this autumn. On bottom page some links to explainers on products they use

Stellantis and TomTom connect Peugeot 308 drivers to safety | TomTom

Next-gen navigation and driver assistance combine for safe, comfortable journeys. TomTom keeps Peugeot 308 drivers safe and connected on the road.

www.tomtom.com

And their customer stories are interesting

Our Customers | TomTom

The world’s biggest companies trust TomTom. Discover how they are driving success with TomTom data and tech.

www.tomtom.com

 

[Damon Trueitt]

Tom2 is hard to find, founders of TomTom own almost 50% of the shares. Stellantis (former FCA and PSA) are also using TomTom in car maps for all their UConnect5 and ADAS, same as Kia and Hyundai.

There is a Dutch forum of Tom2, maybe it’s time to open a Tom2 forum in Reddit. I bet the price of the shares will increase if other investors know more about Tom2 and their role in autonomous driving.

REDDIT ON TOM2.AS