[pezzy668]

My export all ties to your software versions for the big dealer 3.1 update (still awaiting the OTA) except two items.

5F Multimedia 0792 now 0561 - I don't get a software version here. Just a Programming date and long coding.

7E Dashboard Display 0520 to 0531 - Nothing at all, even searched the text file for dashboard and dash and nothing comes up.

 

[SunWizard]

Looks like 5F. is called Electronic Information System 1 using car scanner and shows no software version. And its missing the 7E. I used the names from OBDeleven scan which were better and had the version.

Maybe you software types might solve this puzzle, some of the ECU logs have this line with varied numbers:
Programming date (HEX): 3130413033353834324120
It would be interesting to see what date/time this means, its not any encoding I could find.

 

[pezzy668]

Here is what I have for 5F - looks like it matches your programming date via car scanner.

5F. Electronic Information System 1
Programming date (HEX): 3130413033353834324120
Long Coding: 23166030000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Next time I'm in the car I will see if I can drill down to scan for only 7E, may be possible there was just some hiccup in the scan.

 

[fireboy92k]

I don't think that's a HEX number, despite what it claims. For instance, Unix epoch time is the number of seconds since January 1, 1970 (UTC). The current HEX for that figure is 65EFB4E7 (as of my time of posting). That's 01100101111011111011010011100111 in binary or 1,710,208,231 in decimal.

Looks more like a hash of some sort to me, but it's only got 22 digits which is also not a typical hash function that I know of.

 

[Atlant]

I don't think that's a HEX number, despite what it claims. For instance, Unix epoch time is the number of seconds since January 1, 1970 (UTC). The current HEX for that figure is 65EFB4E7 (as of my time of posting). That's 01100101111011111011010011100111 in binary or 1,710,208,231 in decimal.

Looks more like a hash of some sort to me, but it's only got 22 digits which is also not a typical hash function that I know of.

Oh man: is it 0x65F02F7A already??? ;-)

 

[fireboy92k]

I still have a few years to go to retire, but hopefilly it’s before the Epochalypse on 19 January 2038. LOL

Oh man: is it 0x65F02F7A already??? ;-)

 

[Huey52]

I still have a few years to go to retire, but hopefilly it’s before the Epochalypse on 19 January 2038. LOL

Déjà vu and Y2K and 21 Dec 12 all over again.
But thankfully I am retired so go ahead and bring on the Epoch-alypse's.

 

[fireboy92k]

If only they'd used an UNSIGNED INT! rimshot Then I wouldn't have to worry about it, since it wouldn't happen until 2106!

Year 2038 problem - Wikipedia

Déjà vu and Y2K and 21 Dec 12 all over again.
But thankfully I am retired so go ahead and bring on the Epoch-alypse's.

 

[RocketR]

I got my 97HC 3.2.1 and my versions were a little different. Not much was updated:

42. Driver door electronic equipment 0550 to 0551
52. Front passenger door electronics 0550 to 0551
BB. Rear door behind driver (UDS) 0550 to 0551
BC. Rear door behind passenger (UDS) 0550 to 0551
0051. Electro-engine (29 bit) 6044 to 6046
008C. Battery management system (29 bit) 1030 to 1041

I noticed the ECM calibration dates changed... I did get the setting reset TSB done as well.

 

[OP_Engr]

I took my 2023 ID4 in for the 1 year inspection. I used Car Scanner to pull data before and after service.
I asked if they had done any software updates and was told no. A before and after file comparison confirmed this.
I wish their service report was actual numbers and not just a stop light report (Green Yellow, Red).

 

[fireboy92k]

Sooo, after looking at another thread and what's to come in 3.2.12 OTA for the rest of us pre-mid-2022 cars are the following (Circular (nhtsa.gov):

All of those door electronic numbers is 3.2.12 match your 97HC versions. Which only leaves 0051 and 008C in your update that aren't touched in 3.2.12 above. 3.2.12 has others though.

• 0051 to 6046 is also covered in 97HB and 97ZZ
• 008C to 1041 is also covered in 97HB and 97ZZ

So that's VW playing catch up on those modules for late 2022's it looks like in 97HC and would also explain why the software list is so small.

I wonder what 3.2.12 will look like then for the late 2022s.... or do you already have these versions installed?

I got my 97HC 3.2.1 and my versions were a little different. Not much was updated:

42. Driver door electronic equipment 0550 to 0551
52. Front passenger door electronics 0550 to 0551
BB. Rear door behind driver (UDS) 0550 to 0551
BC. Rear door behind passenger (UDS) 0550 to 0551
0051. Electro-engine (29 bit) 6044 to 6046
008C. Battery management system (29 bit) 1030 to 1041

I noticed the ECM calibration dates changed... I did get the setting reset TSB done as well.

 

[RocketR]

I wonder what 3.2.12 will look like then for the late 2022s.... or do you already have these versions installed?

View attachment 33284

So I checked and already have these modules updated for these versions that were in the 3.2.12 ota. We can say I think at this point that late 2022’s will not be getting a further ota for this campaign. So by the looks of it VW did not want to update the engine and BMS OTA on the late 2022’s. As far as the other modules it also looks like the late 2022’s received updated module software (included in the mid-2022/2021 ota) from the factory.

 

[fireboy92k]

Thanks for checking. So then yeah, it appears that what is in these updates will get all the cars 2022 and previous to the same software baseline then. Which is basically the same for mid-2022 and later after 97HC, for FE/2021 it will be when we get 3.2.12, and for the early 2022 that need it, it looks like 97HB will catch them up then as well.

So given all that, I suspect we will not see any more OTA's likely this year. Maybe LATE in the year, but it also lines up I think with what @NeverhadanEVbefore has shared in other posts from Europe about VW still 'working on' what is to come in 3.7 or whatever they end up calling it. Since 3.5 is 'dead' from an upgrade standpoint.

So I checked and already have these modules updated for these versions that were in the 3.2.12 ota. We can say I think at this point that late 2022’s will not be getting a further ota for this campaign. So by the looks of it VW did not want to update the engine and BMS OTA on the late 2022’s. As far as the other modules it also looks like the late 2022’s received updated module software (included in the mid-2022/2021 ota) from the factory.

 

[OP_Engr]

I manually tried to clean up the Car Scanner output on my 2023 AWD Pro S
OBD-II


19, CAN Gateway, 1EA937012N, ECU 0292


09, Onboard supply control unit, 1EA937089Q, 0307


xx, ECU hardware number,1EA937089H, 0307_01


03. ABS control unit, 1EA614517AR, 0524


04. Power steering, 1EA907144AQ, 5033


xx, ECU software number, 1EA907144AQ, 5033


05. Authorization system, 5WA959436J, 0725


06. Front passenger seat, 1EB959760H, 0562


08. Heater and climate, 11K907727A, 0460


10. Parking Assistant 2, 1EA919300, 0538


13. Active cruise control, 1EA907572H, 0234


15. SRS, 5WA959655R, 0717


16. Steering column, 1EK953507A, 0072


23. Increased braking force, 1EA909059AN, 0626


2B. Steering column lock (UDS), 1EA905861, 0040


36. Driver seat adjustment, 1EB959760H, 0562


3C. Lane change assistant, 2Q0907686K, 0289


42. Driver door electronic equipment, 1EA959593B, 0550


44. Power steering, 1EA907144AQ, 5033


52. Front passenger door electronics, 1EA959592B, 0550


5F. Electronic Information System 1, 10A035842J, 0561


69. Trailer functions, 5H0907383C, 0058


6C. Rear view camera system var.1, 1EA980556F, 0394


6D. Tailgate/Boot lid, 4KE959107A, 0335


75. Emergency Call and Communication Module, 11A035285C, 0664


76. Parking assistant, 1EA919300, 0538


A5. Front Assistant A5 (UDS), 1EA980653D, 5332


BB. Rear door behind driver (UDS), 1EA959597B, 0550


BC. Rear door behind passenger (UDS), 1EA959596B, 0550


C0. Actuator for exterior noise (UDS), 11K035335B, 0007


C6. High-voltage battery charger (UDS), 1EA915684DQ, 1019


01. Engine (EVO/29bit),, 2606


0051. Electro-engine (29 bit),, 6044


008C. Battery management system (29 bit),, 1030


CA. Sunroof control module (29 bit),, 0031


CE. Electric drive 2 (29 bit),, 8021


D6. Headlight control left 2 (29 bit), 9202


D7. Headlight control right 2 (29 bit),, 9202


8105. DC Charger (29 bit),, 1142

 

[RocketR]

It looks like the 2023 will probably have the in shop software upgrade eventually to bring it to baseline. What we don’t know is if the updated BMS software is needed for the SK batteries or just the LG cells. My feeling tells me both cell types will get the upgrade. If VW does not want to push the BMS upgrade they will probably push the door upgrades etc via ota.

 

[NeverhadanEVbefore]

Maybe LATE in the year, but it also lines up I think with what @NeverhadanEVbefore has shared in other posts from Europe about VW still 'working on' what is to come in 3.7 or whatever they end up calling it. Since 3.5 is 'dead' from an upgrade standpoint.

Not sure what I've said, but 3.7 started showing up last fall. When someone asked Volkswagen, they specifically stated it contained no new features. I believe the possibly-credible source from Skoda (same MEB, same software, different skin) said that there is no further development to 3.7 (VAG has this weird thing where they update something and it's not evident from the version numbering), so should they be able to get all cars to 3.7 as a baseline, something could be done in a future version.

I don't have my hopes up. Without reading too much into it, OTAs and "always being up to date" were featured heavily in VW marketing earlier. Now? Try to find any mention of any future updates or OTA in the press releases for the ID.Buzz GTX or the new ID.4/5. "Over" is only found in "cover", "update" is mentioned only when talking about what has been updated compared to previous versions...

World premiere of the new ID. Buzz GTX (Near-production vehicle.) with 4MOTION all-wheel drive

Volkswagen presents the new ID. Buzz GTX: The electric Bulli equipped with a powerful performance drive system will in future be available with two wheelbases, two battery sizes and a choice of 5-, 6- or 7-seater. It also comes with standard 4MOTION all-wheel drive for optimum pulling power and...

www.volkswagen-newsroom.com

The new ID.4 and ID.5

Volkswagen is now announcing the details of extensive upgrades to the hardware and software of the ID.4 and ID.5. Customers who order one of these models from now on will receive their vehicles with a new software and infotainment system generation and an improved operating concept. In addition...

www.volkswagen-newsroom.com

 

[fireboy92k]

Agree. At this point, I'm not expecting any other OTA's to be honest. MAYBE at some point, like Tesla did originally 5 years down the line from the Model S going on sale, they will deliver something like P&C. But I'm not betting on it and am moving on probably from thinking about it.

I don't have my hopes up. Without reading too much into it, OTAs and "always being up to date" were featured heavily in VW marketing earlier. Now? Try to find any mention of any future updates or OTA in the press releases for the ID.Buzz GTX or the new ID.4/5. "Over" is only found in "cover", "update" is mentioned only when talking about what has been updated compared to previous versions...

 

[NeverhadanEVbefore]

^P&C is a 3.2 feature in Europe, so that does exist.

Isn’t P&C out in the US? I’n sure I saw reports about it here..?

 

[fireboy92k]

Only on 2023 and newer. No word on 2022 and older.

^P&C is a 3.2 feature in Europe, so that does exist.

Isn’t P&C out in the US? I’n sure I saw reports about it here..?

 

[SunWizard]

Isn’t P&C out in the US? I’n sure I saw reports about it here..?

The P&C here is only for 23s and only at EA with the free plan. Its not true P&C and will confuse many when every vendor has their own incompatible with anyone else thing they call P&C. Maybe in the US the brands will someday get together on this.