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I went on a trip last week and rented an EV at my destination. The EV reservation was for a “Mustang Mach-E or similar”, which ended up being a Kia EV6. The following are my notes and observations about the differences between that Kia EV6 rental and my VW ID.4.

The EV6 has a start button, and you have to press it to start the car. That wasn’t a big deal to get used to, but on the flip side, you also have to press the button to turn off the car. That took longer to adjust to. The first time we got out of the car, it wouldn't let me lock the doors. Took me a bit to figure out it was because the car was technically still “on” and it wanted me to press the button to turn it off. Initially I thought that was a hassle, but did eventually get used to it, and it does solve one disadvantage of the ID.4, and that is you can get out of the car and leave everything on without having to resort to dummy seat belt buckles or other workarounds.

I prefer the gear selector location on the ID.4, up on the steering column. The gear selector on the EV6 is down in the center by the cup holders where it’s taking up space that could have been used for something else.

The infotainment on the EV6 boots up much quicker than the ID.4. Pretty much instantaneously, so that was nice. But the screens are not as high quality as the ID.4. They’re noticeably lower resolution with a worse contrast ratio. Also, the touchscreen would have difficulty detecting my finger sometimes when I was trying to touch parts of the screen.

A BIG miss for me on the EV6 was how the information is displayed on the screen in front of the driver. It’s kind of displayed in a semi-circle from left to right showing the speedometer, the status of the driver assist functions, and the estimated remaining miles. I’m sure it’s different for everyone, but from my driving position specifically, the steering wheel blocked all of that data (see images below).

It was raining when we picked up the car, and I can say without a doubt the front windshield wipers are WAY better than the ID.4 wipers. Way better. So I was pleased about that, however, I fumbled around with the windshield wiper controls for a bit trying to figure out how to activate the rear wiper until I realized like its Ioniq 5 cousin, the EV6 does not have a rear wiper, and that rear window was hard to see out of when covered with raindrops.

The cabin is a lot quieter than the ID.4. There’s virtually no wind noise at all, really impressive, and made me wish my ID.4 was that quiet. Similarly, the car itself makes no noises. No creaks, rattles, groans, vibrations. Nothing. And this was a rental car that has probably been abused for every one of the 12K+ miles put on it. My ID.4 on the other hand rattles and makes other noises all over the place. The EV6 is definitely a much better put together car.

The EV6 has a lot more physical buttons than the ID.4. I’m not one that has too much of a problem with the ID.4 capacitive buttons, so it was mostly a wash, but if I had to pick one over the other, the physical buttons would win out. As a renter, physical buttons also made it easier to figure out how to activate various features. For example, to enable auto-hold, you just press the big button next to the gear selector labeled auto-hold.

The EV6 creeps like the ID.4, but the feeling of it is much closer to a regular ICE automatic. On the ID.4 (on mine anyway), creep takes a second to ramp up. Without auto-hold, the EV6 feels better because the creep is basically there right away as you’re letting off the brake. With auto-hold enabled though, I think I prefer the ID.4 approach because I can kind of tap the accelerator to break auto-hold and then creep slowly kicks in, whereas on the EV6, as soon as you break auto-hold creep is already fully there.

Speaking of auto-hold though, it works really well on the EV6 and doesn’t make loud groaning noises when the car comes to a complete stop, so that was definitely better.

The brake feeling on the EV6 definitely wins out. I’m not sure what kind of blended braking system KIA is using, but the pedal feels great at all times. The ID.4 has a soft, squishier feeling in the upper portions of the brake travel. I preferred the brake feeling on the EV6. Also, the selectable regen with the paddles is great, really like that capability.

This was my first time using those pop-out style door handles and honestly, it was fine. Actually, I might even say it was better because it’s more mechanical feeling when you pull the handle and feel the door open. No weird issues opening the doors from the inside either. My wife did note that it’s harder to open from the outside if you are carrying something and only have one hand free, so I guess there’s that.

The front seats were very comfortable. In fact, I originally thought they were more comfortable than the ID.4 until I got back in my car today to compare, and yeah, the ID.4 seats are also very comfortable. So I think I’m calling this one a tie. The EV6 wins in the rear seat department though. You can recline the seats in the rear, and my kids had a field day playing around with that.

Also different in the rear is the position of the rear vents. The rear vents are over on the sides of the vehicle instead of in the middle, and they are higher up as well, and seemed to push more air. Both of my kids said they preferred the position of the rear vents in the EV6.

The ride itself in the EV6 wasn’t as smooth as the ID.4, but then again, it was a heavily used rental car, and I suspect the wheels were worn, warped, out of balance, or all of the above.

Acceleration in the EV6 was immediate and felt good, but my AWD ID.4 definitely has more oomph, albeit with a slight delay before it kicks in. I honestly don’t know if the rental EV6 was AWD or RWD though. I suspect RWD because the estimated range at 100% was like 320 miles, so that might be the difference.

I’m honestly not sure how or why, but for some reason I found the reverse lines hard to use. There were two sets of lines, blue and yellow, that would move around and it was mostly just confusing, I couldn’t count on them to accurately guide me into a spot. Never had a problem with the ID.4 implementation.

I’d probably have to give the nod for wireless charging to the EV6, it’s flat, and has ventilation cutouts. I don’t really use wireless charging though, so don’t have a good basis for comparison.

For wired charging, the EV6 definitely gets the win. It has USBC and USBA in the front, USBC in the back, two 12V outlets in the front, plus a 120V outlet in the back.

No question Travel Assist on the ID.4 is better than Highway Driving Assist on the EV6, but HDA was still pretty good. Not sure what type of driver monitoring HDA uses, but I never had to intentionally jiggle the wheel or anything, and I wasn’t getting constant nags, so that was good. The system did a good job of maintaining the lane and distance to other vehicles. Where it loses out though is on the smoothness of the system. HDA is more frantic in its wheel movements. It’s constantly making micro-corrections, giving the wheel a jerky feeling. The car itself isn’t jerking around, and the wheel isn’t really jerking around either per-se, but you can feel all the tiny adjustments being made through the wheel. Travel Assist on the ID.4 is smoother.

This isn't so much a car comparison, but a trim level/packaging comparison. The EV6 we got was very nicely equipped, but didn’t have huge wheels or a glass roof or mood lighting or any of that. I appreciate that Kia offers premium tech features without having to “waste money” on aesthetic upgrades.

One of the well equipped items was cooled/ventilated seats. It was the first time I’ve ever experienced seats like that, and let me tell you, they were awesome. I’ll definitely be looking for that feature on my next vehicle. But I only got to try them out once because . . .

Story time!

We arrived to an event slightly early before most everyone else got there, so while we were waiting we took the time to play around with the car a bit. One of the items we played around with was the cooled seats. As I mentioned, they were great. My wife and I tried out the various blower levels, and then of course the kids wanted to try them out, so we shifted around so they could try them too. Soon everyone else arrived, so we continued on to the event.

Upon returning to the vehicle, the doors wouldn't unlock. Turns out the 12V battery was dead. We were one of the last to leave, so we were pretty much stranded there alone. I called the roadside assistance number for the rental car company and was on hold for about 30 minutes. In that time, I was able to use the physical key from the keyfob to unlock the door (which was a little tricky) and open up the doors and the hood, and also called around to see if anyone had jumper cables they could bring (I have family in the area). Found someone willing to come out and give us a jump.

Literally as soon as the jumper connection was made, the car powered on immediately, so it wasn’t like the battery was completely drained or something, it must have just barely been under voltage. Of course, as soon as we had the car back on, someone from roadside assistance finally came to the line, but I told them we didn’t need them anymore.

Everything in the car shuts down when you turn the car off, and we know the car was turned off because we were able to lock it (the car won’t let you lock it if it’s still on). So the only reason we could think of for why the battery died like that was because we were sitting stationary using the cooled seats for a few minutes.

That all occurred on day two, so for the rest of the time we were there we were nervous that it would happen again. Sucks having an unreliable car. Luckily it did not happen again, but we also refrained from using the cooled seats the whole rest of the time too.

So that was an EPIC FAIL on the EV6, and shows me that the car has some fundamental issues keeping the 12V battery charged up, and made for a stressful situation and lack of trust in the vehicle.

Anyway, I guess that’s everything that comes to mind at the moment. I’ll post more if I remember anything else of note. I can also do my best to answer any other specific questions anyone might have.


EV6 driver display information:
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EV6 driver display view from seating position (pertinent information blocked by steering wheel):
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Oh, one additional thing, came across this at the hotel I was staying at:

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Even if you give them the benefit of the doubt that they asked for the okay from hotel staff before just plugging in, leaving the cord suspended two feet in the air like that was a terrible idea. Risky enough to leave a cord stretched across the sidewalk as a potential tripping hazard, but suspended across in the air like that is dangerous.
 
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<pic of charger cable draped across sidewalk at hotel>

Even if you give them the benefit of the doubt that they asked for the okay from hotel staff before just plugging in, leaving the cord suspended two feet in the air like that was a terrible idea. Risky enough to leave a cord stretched across the sidewalk as a potential tripping hazard, but suspended across in the air like that is dangerous.
Obviously this is bad from the tactical viewpoint because it's inviting somebody to yank it out. Or trip. Also who knows what is going on behind the outlet; there is plenty of questionable wiring in hotel buildings.

From the strategic viewpoint, though, it might be a good idea. Hotels need encouragement to provide either chargers or at least convenient 120 VAC outlets in their parking lots. And not trying to get $50 for them. So if the hotel manager complains, you could ask "ok I'll unplug it, where should I plug in?" At least to get their attention.

An insurance question would be what happens if the hotel burns down due to an unsanctioned charger being used on a faulty outlet? Or a phone charger?
 
#3 ·
EV6 driver display view from seating position (pertinent information blocked by steering wheel):
Looks like you prefer your steering wheel to be closer to your lap. We have two (much older!) Hondas with a similar problem, certain wheel height settings block basic driver info. Comfort preference over information is a personal choice, not a design fault. The (possibly?) cooled seats killing the battery? Now that's a design fault.

Thanks for the comparison. I didn't like the ID.4 UI mostly because of the unclear capacitive touch controls. Supported by your comments, if it was down to one or the other, I'd go with the Kia in a heartbeat.
 
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Looks like you prefer your steering wheel to be closer to your lap. We have two (much older!) Hondas with a similar problem, certain wheel height settings block basic driver info. Comfort preference over information is a personal choice, not a design fault.
Yep, but I need the steering wheel low due to my short stature more than just a general preference :)
Don't have a problem on my ID.4 since the binnacle moves and pivots with the steering wheel, and the key info is more centralized on the display. But absolutely, that was a problem specific to my personal seating and wheel positions.
 
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Nice review.

How did you find EV6 interior volume in the front? I've heard the ev6 can feel cramped if you're a bigger or taller person, especially compared to ID4.

Also what are the shortcomings of your ID4 windshield wipers? Is this a design issue with the speed or does your id4 just not clean the glass well and need new blades?

(I'm still on my original wipers and they seem great but I do treat them with 303 aerospace. I have heard some more recent owners complain that the wipers sucked as soon as they bought the car, I thought they just meant they need to replace the wiper blades.)

How did mi/kWh compare?

If you could do it again, still in ID4 camp?
 
#8 ·
Nice review.

How did you find EV6 interior volume in the front? I've heard the ev6 can feel cramped if you're a bigger or taller person, especially compared to ID4.

Also what are the shortcomings of your ID4 windshield wipers? Is this a design issue with the speed or does your id4 just not clean the glass well and need new blades?

(I'm still on my original wipers and they seem great but I do treat them with 303 aerospace. I have heard some more recent owners complain that the wipers sucked as soon as they bought the car, I thought they just meant they need to replace the wiper blades.)

How did mi/kWh compare?

If you could do it again, still in ID4 camp?
Thanks.

I'm short and my wife is even shorter, so we typically never have an issue with space. That said, the cabin did feel smaller than the ID.4. I think some of that is due to the center console being wider and I think it comes up higher too (to make it easier to control the gear selector, etc). There's probably less overall headroom as well, but not a problem for us.

The windshield wipers on my ID.4 typically clear nicely on the way up, but poorly on the way back down, leaving a smeared stripe right in the middle of my line of sight (I've seen others report the same thing elsewhere on this forum). They also pull water from the edge back towards the middle on the down swipe. Additionally, if there's not enough water on the windshield, the wipers will rub as they wipe across, making an unpleasant sound. So I find that I usually have to keep the wipers one speed lower than what I'd actually want activated because if I make it faster, there's not enough water on the windshield during each stroke to prevent the rubbing. Further, the slowest intermittent wiper speed is only 10 seconds. All my other vehicles have been at least double that. What that means is that in very light rain/mist situations, I have to resort to manually activating the wipers every so often because 10 seconds is just too frequent, and the wipers will rub the entire time. All that has been true since day one.

The EV6 I rented definitely got more miles per kWH than my ID.4, especially at highway speeds (70+ MPH), but it's not quite a fair comparison because I'm pretty sure it was a RWD EV6 and my ID.4 is AWD.

Tough question on whether I'd do it again or not. I've definitely soured on VW mostly because of the "settings reset" issue that made my ownership experience particularly crappy that took a year and a half for them to fix (or even acknowledge there was an issue) even though they already had a fix available in Europe for that whole time. I also loathe the fact that instead of trying to improve their subpar software, VW instead decided to completely abandon it and move to a whole new stack which "older" cars can never upgrade to.

With that said, between the EV6 I rented and the ID.4 I own, I would stick with the ID.4.
 
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Couple more things that came to me:

Trunk size. I did not pull out a measuring tape and measure or anything, but based on how our luggage fit in the back, the ID.4 trunk is longer, wider, and deeper than the EV6. The EV6 does have a false floor, but the area underneath is very thin and not all the space is usable. The ID.4 has a deeper underside with the full space available, plus another deep third level to fill as well. Of course, the EV6 has a frunk, but it's pretty small. You could hold some charging cables or adapters up there though. All that being said, we were able to fit everything into the EV6 trunk without issue, though we were traveling light since we flew instead of road tripping.

Charging speed. I'd love to talk about how awesome it was charging the EV6 at blazing speeds, but we never did end up DCFCing it. Our hotel had level 2 Chargepoint chargers available, and we just used those when needed. They were not free, but were very reasonable at $0.15/kW. I'm actually a fan of L2 chargers charging some kind of fee so that people don't abuse free chargers, and a low cost residential-ish rate like $0.15/kW is the right way to do it. There was also a $2.00 per hour idle fee for staying plugged in after a 10 minute grace period after charging completed, so good incentive to move your car when done.
 
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I went on a trip last week and rented an EV at my destination. The EV reservation was for a “Mustang Mach-E or similar”, which ended up being a Kia EV6. The following are my notes and observations about the differences between that Kia EV6 rental and my VW ID.4.

The EV6 has a start button, and you have to press it to start the car. That wasn’t a big deal to get used to, but on the flip side, you also have to press the button to turn off the car. That took longer to adjust to. The first time we got out of the car, it wouldn't let me lock the doors. Took me a bit to figure out it was because the car was technically still “on” and it wanted me to press the button to turn it off. Initially I thought that was a hassle, but did eventually get used to it, and it does solve one disadvantage of the ID.4, and that is you can get out of the car and leave everything on without having to resort to dummy seat belt buckles or other workarounds.

I prefer the gear selector location on the ID.4, up on the steering column. The gear selector on the EV6 is down in the center by the cup holders where it’s taking up space that could have been used for something else.

The infotainment on the EV6 boots up much quicker than the ID.4. Pretty much instantaneously, so that was nice. But the screens are not as high quality as the ID.4. They’re noticeably lower resolution with a worse contrast ratio. Also, the touchscreen would have difficulty detecting my finger sometimes when I was trying to touch parts of the screen.

A BIG miss for me on the EV6 was how the information is displayed on the screen in front of the driver. It’s kind of displayed in a semi-circle from left to right showing the speedometer, the status of the driver assist functions, and the estimated remaining miles. I’m sure it’s different for everyone, but from my driving position specifically, the steering wheel blocked all of that data (see images below).

It was raining when we picked up the car, and I can say without a doubt the front windshield wipers are WAY better than the ID.4 wipers. Way better. So I was pleased about that, however, I fumbled around with the windshield wiper controls for a bit trying to figure out how to activate the rear wiper until I realized like its Ioniq 5 cousin, the EV6 does not have a rear wiper, and that rear window was hard to see out of when covered with raindrops.

The cabin is a lot quieter than the ID.4. There’s virtually no wind noise at all, really impressive, and made me wish my ID.4 was that quiet. Similarly, the car itself makes no noises. No creaks, rattles, groans, vibrations. Nothing. And this was a rental car that has probably been abused for every one of the 12K+ miles put on it. My ID.4 on the other hand rattles and makes other noises all over the place. The EV6 is definitely a much better put together car.

The EV6 has a lot more physical buttons than the ID.4. I’m not one that has too much of a problem with the ID.4 capacitive buttons, so it was mostly a wash, but if I had to pick one over the other, the physical buttons would win out. As a renter, physical buttons also made it easier to figure out how to activate various features. For example, to enable auto-hold, you just press the big button next to the gear selector labeled auto-hold.

The EV6 creeps like the ID.4, but the feeling of it is much closer to a regular ICE automatic. On the ID.4 (on mine anyway), creep takes a second to ramp up. Without auto-hold, the EV6 feels better because the creep is basically there right away as you’re letting off the brake. With auto-hold enabled though, I think I prefer the ID.4 approach because I can kind of tap the accelerator to break auto-hold and then creep slowly kicks in, whereas on the EV6, as soon as you break auto-hold creep is already fully there.

Speaking of auto-hold though, it works really well on the EV6 and doesn’t make loud groaning noises when the car comes to a complete stop, so that was definitely better.

The brake feeling on the EV6 definitely wins out. I’m not sure what kind of blended braking system KIA is using, but the pedal feels great at all times. The ID.4 has a soft, squishier feeling in the upper portions of the brake travel. I preferred the brake feeling on the EV6. Also, the selectable regen with the paddles is great, really like that capability.

This was my first time using those pop-out style door handles and honestly, it was fine. Actually, I might even say it was better because it’s more mechanical feeling when you pull the handle and feel the door open. No weird issues opening the doors from the inside either. My wife did note that it’s harder to open from the outside if you are carrying something and only have one hand free, so I guess there’s that.

The front seats were very comfortable. In fact, I originally thought they were more comfortable than the ID.4 until I got back in my car today to compare, and yeah, the ID.4 seats are also very comfortable. So I think I’m calling this one a tie. The EV6 wins in the rear seat department though. You can recline the seats in the rear, and my kids had a field day playing around with that.

Also different in the rear is the position of the rear vents. The rear vents are over on the sides of the vehicle instead of in the middle, and they are higher up as well, and seemed to push more air. Both of my kids said they preferred the position of the rear vents in the EV6.

The ride itself in the EV6 wasn’t as smooth as the ID.4, but then again, it was a heavily used rental car, and I suspect the wheels were worn, warped, out of balance, or all of the above.

Acceleration in the EV6 was immediate and felt good, but my AWD ID.4 definitely has more oomph, albeit with a slight delay before it kicks in. I honestly don’t know if the rental EV6 was AWD or RWD though. I suspect RWD because the estimated range at 100% was like 320 miles, so that might be the difference.

I’m honestly not sure how or why, but for some reason I found the reverse lines hard to use. There were two sets of lines, blue and yellow, that would move around and it was mostly just confusing, I couldn’t count on them to accurately guide me into a spot. Never had a problem with the ID.4 implementation.

I’d probably have to give the nod for wireless charging to the EV6, it’s flat, and has ventilation cutouts. I don’t really use wireless charging though, so don’t have a good basis for comparison.

For wired charging, the EV6 definitely gets the win. It has USBC and USBA in the front, USBC in the back, two 12V outlets in the front, plus a 120V outlet in the back.

No question Travel Assist on the ID.4 is better than Highway Driving Assist on the EV6, but HDA was still pretty good. Not sure what type of driver monitoring HDA uses, but I never had to intentionally jiggle the wheel or anything, and I wasn’t getting constant nags, so that was good. The system did a good job of maintaining the lane and distance to other vehicles. Where it loses out though is on the smoothness of the system. HDA is more frantic in its wheel movements. It’s constantly making micro-corrections, giving the wheel a jerky feeling. The car itself isn’t jerking around, and the wheel isn’t really jerking around either per-se, but you can feel all the tiny adjustments being made through the wheel. Travel Assist on the ID.4 is smoother.

This isn't so much a car comparison, but a trim level/packaging comparison. The EV6 we got was very nicely equipped, but didn’t have huge wheels or a glass roof or mood lighting or any of that. I appreciate that Kia offers premium tech features without having to “waste money” on aesthetic upgrades.

One of the well equipped items was cooled/ventilated seats. It was the first time I’ve ever experienced seats like that, and let me tell you, they were awesome. I’ll definitely be looking for that feature on my next vehicle. But I only got to try them out once because . . .

Story time!

We arrived to an event slightly early before most everyone else got there, so while we were waiting we took the time to play around with the car a bit. One of the items we played around with was the cooled seats. As I mentioned, they were great. My wife and I tried out the various blower levels, and then of course the kids wanted to try them out, so we shifted around so they could try them too. Soon everyone else arrived, so we continued on to the event.

Upon returning to the vehicle, the doors wouldn't unlock. Turns out the 12V battery was dead. We were one of the last to leave, so we were pretty much stranded there alone. I called the roadside assistance number for the rental car company and was on hold for about 30 minutes. In that time, I was able to use the physical key from the keyfob to unlock the door (which was a little tricky) and open up the doors and the hood, and also called around to see if anyone had jumper cables they could bring (I have family in the area). Found someone willing to come out and give us a jump.

Literally as soon as the jumper connection was made, the car powered on immediately, so it wasn’t like the battery was completely drained or something, it must have just barely been under voltage. Of course, as soon as we had the car back on, someone from roadside assistance finally came to the line, but I told them we didn’t need them anymore.

Everything in the car shuts down when you turn the car off, and we know the car was turned off because we were able to lock it (the car won’t let you lock it if it’s still on). So the only reason we could think of for why the battery died like that was because we were sitting stationary using the cooled seats for a few minutes.

That all occurred on day two, so for the rest of the time we were there we were nervous that it would happen again. Sucks having an unreliable car. Luckily it did not happen again, but we also refrained from using the cooled seats the whole rest of the time too.

So that was an EPIC FAIL on the EV6, and shows me that the car has some fundamental issues keeping the 12V battery charged up, and made for a stressful situation and lack of trust in the vehicle.

Anyway, I guess that’s everything that comes to mind at the moment. I’ll post more if I remember anything else of note. I can also do my best to answer any other specific questions anyone might have.


EV6 driver display information:
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EV6 driver display view from seating position (pertinent information blocked by steering wheel):
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With all of the creaks, rattles, and other distractions you say are ‘features’ of your ID4 experience, I can say with a straight face and without hesitation that I have not had the same experience with my 3 year-old 1st Ed. It does not make ANY of the noises you are experiencing (unless I have something loose in the back that’s making noise). I also believe my car ‘creeps’ like an ICE, with no delay or soft ramp-up. Maybe it has to do with place of manufacture. Mine is a 2021 1st Ed, so by default it was built in Zwickau, Germany.
 
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The biggest offender as far as rattles in my ID.4 comes from the center console, the cup holders are especially really bad. My understanding is the 2021/2022 ID.4s have a different center console, glad to hear the old design was better. I also get occasional vibration/rattling sounds from somewhere behind the steering wheel (I posted a video of it a while back). The door handles also rattle on occasion, and there's frequently a noise coming from just behind the driver's seat on the left, I think it's coming from the seat belt height adjuster.

Interesting about the creep on your ID.4. Mine 100% has a ramp-up, and the one I test drove way back when did too, so I just assumed that was normal. It's most noticeable when releasing the brake from an incline. Anyway, I actually prefer the ramp-up behavior when using auto-hold, which I always use, so it's a plus for me. I'm curious now how it works on other ID.4s though.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
 
#21 ·
Had a 2021 ID.4 new on 4/30/21. Traded at 30,000 miles on 5/12/23 for a 2023 EV 6 GT-Line RWD. IMHO the EV 6 is superior in almost every aspect. Everything in the EV 6 worked as advertised from Day 1. It has been recalled once and a “recommended” voluntary service campaign about a month after the recall. My ID was recalled five times in two years. I was still awaiting the recall to permit OTA updates. The EV 6 has OTA but only for infotainment/GPS updates.
The screens are far superior to the ID. The 800 volt architecture in the EV 6 permits 250 watts of charging. I am not going into “mine is bigger” arguments. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I very much enjoyed “butt in seat” starting and the fantastic turning radius of the ID.
Would I get another ID.4 when it is time to replace our EV 6? Perhaps as most of the problems have been fixed. I am more interested in the Equinox EV at this point. The choice comes 5/26.
 
#22 ·
I went on a trip last week and rented an EV at my destination. The EV reservation was for a “Mustang Mach-E or similar”, which ended up being a Kia EV6. The following are my notes and observations about the differences between that Kia EV6 rental and my VW ID.4.
Another odd thing about the EV6 is that it has little room to the right of the "gas" pedal. My wife has an artificial right leg and so she drives with her left leg and needs space on the right to rest her fake foot. In most cars this is a non-issue. Certain ICE cars like Subarus have a thick "hump" in the center of the car for the driveshaft, but otherwise she can drive any automatic-transmission car. But the EV6 is really tight in that space, and so considering that model was a non-starter for us. Plus she thought it was butt-ugly :)