[2928]

VW doesn’t know how to do opening panoramic sunroofs so they didn’t make them available for the ID.Xs.

A settlement has been reached for Audi and Volkswagen owners who claim the sunroofs are prone to leak due to problems with their drainage systems and seals.

Six Volkswagen sunroof leak class action lawsuits were filed between December 2019 and May 2020 and consolidated into this lawsuit which includes these vehicles.

• 2018-2021 Volkswagen Atlas
• 2020-2021 Volkswagen Atlas Cross Sport
• 2015-2018 Volkswagen Golf / Golf GTI
• 2015-2019 Volkswagen Golf SportWagen
• 2017-2019 Volkswagen Golf alltrack
• 2018-2021 Volkswagen Tiguan
• 2019-2021 Audi Q3
• 2019-2021 Audi Q8
• 2019-2021 Audi e-tron

The class action alleges a sunroof leak causes water to damage the interiors, audio systems, electrical systems, seats, carpets and roof headliners. The class action lawsuit also alleges mold and mildew can grow in seats and carpet that get drenched by water leaks.

The nine plaintiffs who sued contend VW knew the sunroofs were defective but failed to warn customers.

Those plaintiffs also assert the VW sunroof leak warranty didn't help, and neither did technical service bulletins Volkswagen issued to its dealers about sunroof leaks.

I have an affected car… the issue was they included a plastic guard on the bottom of the drain hose to stop spiders from climbing it. The recall fix was to remove them because they were trapping debris. Not a big deal…

 

[2928]

Along with Toyota, Kia/Hyundai, Lucid, and a few other smaller players. So the two largest automakers in the world haven't committed to NACS yet.

My take is that they'll all switch to NACS at some point. It's not a question of if, but when. The question is whether or not that will involve cutting a deal to use Tesla SCs or not. It's within the realm of possibility that an automaker could announce a switch to NACS without cutting a charging deal with Tesla, though imo that would not be a good marketing decision. NACS will be a standard totally independent of Tesla's control and licensing.

Not to mention Stellantis… but it’s possible the charging landscape fragments into two different plug styles…

 

[2928]

Wait, what? On my 2021 that's a physical button and under a molly-guard. Did they change that in later years?

The child lock thing is for real though. Terrible place for a function that shouldn't often be toggled anyways.

Yes, they got rid of our awesome “missile launch” buttons on the US cars…

 

[Manybees]

Not to mention Stellantis… but it’s possible the charging landscape fragments into two different plug styles…

Ha - yeah. Knew I was forgetting someone!

 

[BlueDH]

Yes, they got rid of our awesome “missile launch” buttons on the US cars…

The emergency inside button only sent a message to the binnacle to call on your cell phone to a (800) VW helpline.
Sheesh 🙄.

 

[2928]

The emergency inside button only sent a message to call on your cell phone to a VW helpline.
Sheesh 🙄.

Huh? The button calls the the Safe & Secure service and you talk to them through the car… no cell phone required! You just need to be signed up for the Safe & Secure plan. (Which VW gave us for free for 5 years.)

 

[wildpitcher]

For me it is that the driver seat memory is not keyed to the key fob, but must be adjusted manually before I can enter the car and have it offer to adjust it for me. Grrrr.

Even my 2014 Honda Accord could recognize my key fob and adjust the seat for me as I was opening the door.

C'mon VW.

Dave

 

[2928]

For me it is that the driver seat memory is not keyed to the key fob, but must be adjusted manually before I can enter the car and have it offer to adjust it for me. Grrrr.

Even my 2014 Honda Accord could recognize my key fob and adjust the seat for me as I was opening the door.

C'mon VW.

Dave

Yes, agreed!

 

[pooge30]

I miss going to the closest Sheetz. I have to go another 5 miles to hit the Sheetz that has EA chargers. If I had an ICE car, my Sheetz runs would be faster.

 

[BlueDH]

Huh? The button calls the the Safe & Secure service and you talk to them through the car… no cell phone required! You just need to be signed up for the Safe & Secure plan. (Which VW gave us for free for 5 years.)

Maybe on later models. The results of above were early during my ownership. I only tried it once.

 

[2928]

Maybe on later models. The results of above were early during my ownership. I only tried it once.

They gave us a free thing… sign up for it on the app. Then you get 5 years of calling for help…

 

[JohnnyForElectric]

Rear window controls. And the second - rear window controls.

 

[ddx]

I agree with all window control complaints. Double annoying is that the Rear touch sensitive pad, it should be a tactile button. I am still super annoyed even after 2 years; I am contemplating on buying this aftermarket part:

 

[Pascal]

That the car gets dirty after rain.
I now have an appointment with the dealer to see how they can solve this.

 

[16573]

#1 gripe: Noisy brakes when stopping and auto-hold that moans and groans and slips on hills. Everything else I can live with.

 

[JLo]

Windscreen washer could be better. Earlier the settings resetting was a annoyance but that was fixed by dealer.

 

[NeoFrank]

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For those that have overall enjoyed owning their ID.4s, is there anything that you'd consider a stand out complaint to your car?

After trading in a buggy First Edition for a 2023, many of the issues were resolved. That said, most revolve around infotainment:

• inconsistent connection to Apple CarPlay: works really fast sometimes, often very slow, and occasionally simply won't connect without restarting the car
• too many 'buttons' to press to navigate screens, for example going from a podcast to live radio could be 3 or 4 taps
• I know it's small, but it's quite an annoyance to not have the touch bar illuminated. I suppose I could put stickers for tactile feedback, but why didn't VW?

All that said, I'm pretty happy with the new ID.4!

 

[16573]

• inconsistent connection to Apple CarPlay: works really fast sometimes, often very slow, and occasionally simply won't connect without restarting the car

FWIW I have found CarPlay - especially wireless CP - is unreliably implemented in many vehicles, especially around the initial connection. My recent experiences are with late model Subaru, Polestar, Toyota, and a dealer-loaner Tiguan (It was, of course, a 100% non-issue in a CP-less Tesla rental... gah!). I know some folks report better reliability, but I've yet to see it myself. I stick to wired CP for minimal connection hassle. Once connected, CP is mostly flawless and nearly eliminates my need to get into the VW interface.

 

[Huey52]

FWIW I have found CarPlay - especially wireless CP - is unreliably implemented in many vehicles, especially around the initial connection. My recent experiences are with late model Subaru, Polestar, Toyota, and a dealer-loaner Tiguan (It was, of course, a 100% non-issue in a CP-less Tesla rental... gah!). I know some folks report better reliability, but I've yet to see it myself. I stick to wired CP for minimal connection hassle. Once connected, CP is mostly flawless and nearly eliminates my need to get into the VW interface.

I find that across many vehicle brands more complain of Android Auto issues, but certainly some with Apple CarPlay as well.

The AA/CarPlay interface in the Infotainment system gets updated far less often than the smartphone OS itself, so ....

btw: ID.4 OTA does work for such "supporting cast" App's, and has for quite some time. But of course not [yet] for main software.

 

[Enzeder]

Whoa!! Throw chum in the water before jumping off the boat much?
Seems some folks skipped over the first 9 words in your post . And also skipped over the title . I know I was temped ...

There are parts of the ownership experience I've enjoyed, but UI issues (lack of buttons in some places, weird placement, etc) bug me the most.
I was tempted to agree with @BlueDH and say lack of battery preconditioning, but I don't do enough trips in Autumn, Winter, or Spring for that to rise to my #1 issue.