For those that have overall enjoyed owning their ID.4s, is there anything that you'd consider a stand out complaint to your car? Is it something small or is it a big deal you wished was taken care of? This can extend to the ID.3 as well for any European members.
What's your #1 ID.4 Complaint?
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For those that have overall enjoyed owning their ID.4s, is there anything that you'd consider a stand out complaint to your car? Is it something small or is it a big deal you wished was taken care of? This can extend to the ID.3 as well for any European members.
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I did this quite a while ago, but not for infotainment performance. I found there were too many accidental activations, like using the word "idea", etc. And half the time when I did want to use it, the command failed.
Too many bugs in the infotainment. 19 months so far with no fix yet for them. The update to 3.1 was a 5 month wait at the dealer, and then I get a new set of bugs, which sounds like more annoying bugs than I had to start with. How long to get an update to fix the new bugs?
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Yeah, this is my biggest complaint. I have a few other nits (capacitive buttons, no knobs, having to turn the shifter twice to switch to B mode), but I could live with all of those if the software worked consistently. I'd love to have decent apps that work with it all, too, but I'll just take non-buggy software.
Also: we do have the "missile launch" button in the 2023 behind the plastic door - this calls emergency services. This is well designed, is a physical button and cannot be pressed by mistake. But we also have the wrench and info touch buttons that call for roadside assistance or VW customer service respectively. Both buttons will start the phone call with the lightest brush of your finger, like when you lean your hand on the rearview mirror to adjust it. These should be physical buttons as well so they require an actual press to activate. In fact, really the only control that actually makes sense as capactive touch is the shade for the glass roof. And that's correctly recessed, so you are less likely to touch it by mistake.
VW needs to find some proper UX/product design people to vet all of these choices. They are all relatively minor and probably easy to fix, if they would prioritize user experience over "cool" factor.
In a compact package, the controls of my Mustang GT include a nice physical volume knob which clicks as you turn it, physical temperature adjustments for both sides (toggle up and down), heated and cooling seat adjustments, radio controls, defrosters, AC, drive modes, basically everything. All backlit. All of these are also controllable from the screen, but I rarely do it that way since the tactile feel and visual indication of the controls are all immediately available at all times without fiddling with a giant screen and menus and waiting for things to appear. I have no idea why manufactures don't do this for EVs.
aren't there the homelink buttons on the bottom of the rearview mirror you can program with your garage door opener?
if your garage door opener works with Apple HomeKit, iOS 17 seems to have nice feature that shows the garage door status in the lower right corner in the CarPlay display as you get closer to home, and touching it will open or close the garage door. it's a nice reminder of whether you closed the garage door or not as you drive away from home too.
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For the 2021's, adding the mirror with homelink was an option. You can buy one from the parts store for about $320. That is what I did.
oh wow! I must have paid for it without knowing... lol. My car just had it when I drove it off the lot...
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The ID4, I guess was meant to be a complete paradigm change. I don’t agree with that. Many previous VWs had “standard” buttons. I like the gear selector switch but the media selector vectors on the steering wheel spoke are un-intuitive to me (especially compared to my ‘13 Jetta hybrid). The unlit temp and volume sliders was a very stupid UI idea 😖.
The Mach-E only went half way, however, it was better for new EV adopters.
The Mach-E only went half way, however, it was better for new EV adopters.
Agree, generally… my Golf has volume knobs, lighted HVAC controls, and while I can control the HVAC through the Climate screen (which pretty pictures of where the air goes) I never use the screen. However, the ID.4 controls don’t really bother me … volume on the steering wheel is all I need, and I love the touch sensitive slider! As for climate, it’s automatic and the defrost functions are on the headlight control so I never go into the climate screen…
Oh, glass cockpit FTW! But yoke still better than side stick?I used to appreciate buttons/switches, but modern tablets have their own advantages.
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From @Huey52 and @d287 keyboards to VW engineers ears!!! Screens/tablets are great for presenting data, but not so great for control as an operator - especially when your focus is out a windscreen. Hence the use of buttons down both sides of those screens in the glass cockpit.
My 2 cents = there should be some common sense applied to controls. If you want to change the setting for auto-folding the mirrors, or change bass levels on the radio, etc, then bury it in a menu on the screen. Get rid of excess buttons. But if you want to change the seat heat setting, enable defrost, close a window, etc as you drive, then make the control identifiable by touch.
Even pilots (who have a lot more training than most drivers) have major controls with very different shapes to enable identification by touch: wheel shape for landing gear, wing shape for flaps, and ball shape for throttles (hence the expression "balls to the wall").
I'm not sure if Tesla (Musk) drew inspiration for Jobs when designing the interior of the Model Y with it's button minimalism, but that design was a negative element for me. I prefer the interior of the IONIQ 5 with it's some buttons/some screen design, but at purchase time last summer the ID.4 was available, and the IONIQ 5 was not - otherwise I might be annoying a different group of folks.
Scuttlebutt is that VW got the message and will be adding at least a few buttons in future iterations.
My 2 cents = there should be some common sense applied to controls. If you want to change the setting for auto-folding the mirrors, or change bass levels on the radio, etc, then bury it in a menu on the screen. Get rid of excess buttons. But if you want to change the seat heat setting, enable defrost, close a window, etc as you drive, then make the control identifiable by touch.
Even pilots (who have a lot more training than most drivers) have major controls with very different shapes to enable identification by touch: wheel shape for landing gear, wing shape for flaps, and ball shape for throttles (hence the expression "balls to the wall").
I'm not sure if Tesla (Musk) drew inspiration for Jobs when designing the interior of the Model Y with it's button minimalism, but that design was a negative element for me. I prefer the interior of the IONIQ 5 with it's some buttons/some screen design, but at purchase time last summer the ID.4 was available, and the IONIQ 5 was not - otherwise I might be annoying a different group of folks.
Scuttlebutt is that VW got the message and will be adding at least a few buttons in future iterations.
It may have been an option on the 2023 too - not sure. I originally was waiting for my car but when the wait went over 9 months, I did a nationwide search and found as close to a match as I ordered and just had it delivered. I'll look into that option though - thanks for sharing!
#1 complaint: the butt sensor. If I lift one cheek just a bit off the seat, the car turns off. There are better ways to determine whether the driver has left the car. #2 complaint: the dealer network seems to have little understanding of the software and/or whether they will ever be able to perform updates.
On the plus side, build quality is better than the Tesla 3 in our other garage bay.
On the plus side, build quality is better than the Tesla 3 in our other garage bay.
The weird noise(s) that come from behind the infotainment / ?in the dash? if you just sit in silence while the climate is on. Sounds like dampers + a cd player + clicking or something ... and it doesn't seem to stop. Can't stand it.
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Seat memory and massage button location is tops for me.
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Yes but because it constantly went off when I was talking and not saying Hey ID.
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