I think mine would be the lack of lights on the climate buttons (2023 and before), lack of physical buttons, and the lack of actual tire pressures.

And of course, but I think I've said this many times before, EA. EA is just lousy. In fact, the entire CCS architecture around me is lousy.

 

I would like a separate button to adjust the following distance in ACC

 

Don't we have that? It's on the steering wheel. Though I think it's a single button, so you have to cycle through.

 

Hitting the center button will step up the range, to decrease it you need to cycle through, or hit the center button, then the down arrow. I had drove a car with separate paddles for the distance. Much better system.

 

Have you tried a swipe on that button? I like that better and it lets you go up or down small or large amounts with 1 swipe.

 

I can totally relate to the frustration with the ID.4's quirks! My top complaint is also about the system's limitations – I'd love to have a way to permanently disable the Maneuver Braking feature like what was mentioned. It's just too sensitive, especially when I'm trying to back out of tight spaces with bikes on the hitch. It’d be great if there was a simple fix without having to resort to workarounds. Anyone else dealt with this?

 

Permanently turn off maneuver braking

Good afternoon, I have a 2021 VW ID4. I permanently have a hitch bike rack installed. How can I permanently disable the maneuver braking? I am getting tired of turning it off every time I need to go in reverse. Thank you all very much!

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My #1 complaint is rear drum brakes. [Just kidding! ]

 

Mine is the turning radius!

 

Many little things, most are already listed. I did not see this one:
The charging compartment light does not come on when you open the door but after you have fumbled in the dark for a while and plugged it in without a light.

 

The light inside the charging port? In my experience it DOES come on, every time I prime the car for charging by selecting "charge" on the infotainment screen menu, and then open the port. It turns green when charging starts. It goes off when I unplug.

 

The noisy front suspension over speed bumps and small imperfections in the road. Its noisier than my 2008 bmw 335i with sports suspension and super thin tires. The noise is so bad that I have not recommended this car to over 100 people.

 

My biggest complaint is that the voice command feature is so limited.

With everything in the car controlled by computer, you should be able to control everything in the car by voice command. There are plenty of examples (limited control of Clima, inability to roll down the windows, or honk the horn) but my main one is that if I suddenly enter a situation where I want the bad weather lights* to go on, that is exactly a situation where I don't want to be fumbling around trying to figure out the headlight control panel.

Unless there is a pretty substantial improvement to this feature within the next year, I'm planning to discontinue the Plus Speech subscription because as it stands, it's practically useless.

* Related complaint is the lack of European lighting, including actual fog lamps front and rear, and adaptive headlights.

 

Unless there is a pretty substantial improvement to this feature within the next year, I'm planning to discontinue the Plus Speech subscription because as it stands, it's practically useless.

Wow... I didn't even realize it was a subscription... it hardly does anything on the few occasions where it works. I think the remote access subscription is the only one remotely worth subscribing to, and even then, one would hope that it would do more than the less-than-minimum that it does now.

I'll give VW credit for giving us CarPlay with no subscription though.

 

My car has been great but my number one complaint is the stupid welcome message that appeared ever since the software upgrade to 3.X . I drove for almost 3 years on the first generation of the software with zero issues and quite frankly the software updates haven't really brought anything useful besides having the battery % now being shown. But that welcome message, that drives me bonkers. It adds nothing beneficial and always having to touch the screen to make it go away is annoying.

 

It gets VW out of a legal jam in Europe with regard to data protection requirements. Why they felt the need to apply it to North American cars is another question, of course.

 

Every week I start off with a clean, no fingerprints screen, and resolve to not touch it except for that login acknowledgement. I sometimes make it to Wednesday.

I have figured out most of the car's voice-controllable features. I think. Now the biggest problem is trying to control CarPlay by Siri; there is not enough capability. Maybe the new iOS update (18) will help, especially after they release the AI software in a couple of months.

 

Mine are mostly "1st world problems", and nothing so far that really interferes with safe driving.

1. The radio coming on randomly. Sometimes when I put it in reverse. Sometimes when the car starts beeping at me for being too close to something. Sometimes when I just get in. (I'm mostly used to the climate coming on every time)

2. The 2-switch window control (and, less-so, the steering wheel controls).

3. The inability of the app to reliably start climate control remotely (and the lack of features in the app generally).

4. Concern about the cost of maintaining the vehicle when it's out of warranty (but this is a worry for any modern car).

#2 I'm hoping that our very own Wes and Jan will fix for me

All this being said, I do enjoy driving the car and smile every time I mash on the accelerator. I've driven some other EVs and also think the UI/UX (other than the over reliance on touch controls) fits my style more than most.

 

Mine are mostly "1st world problems", and nothing so far that really interferes with safe driving.

1. The radio coming on randomly. Sometimes when I put it in reverse. Sometimes when the car starts beeping at me for being too close to something. Sometimes when I just get in. (I'm mostly used to the climate coming on every time)

2. The 2-switch window control (and, less-so, the steering wheel controls).

3. The inability of the app to reliably start climate control remotely (and the lack of features in the app generally).

4. Concern about the cost of maintaining the vehicle when it's out of warranty (but this is a worry for any modern car).

#2 I'm hoping that our very own Wes and Jan will fix for me

All this being said, I do enjoy driving the car and smile every time I mash on the accelerator. I've driven some other EVs and also think the UI/UX (other than the over reliance on touch controls) fits my style more than most.

Number 3 is the big one for me. Because winter is coming.

 

1. Screen reboots frequently , 1 to 2 a week
2. Window switches and often windows go down when I pull up
3. Hatch opening unreliable
Id4 pro s 2021 52kmi
Other than this it drives very comfi

 

We have about 7K miles on our 2024 Pro S AWD.

Everything about the car has been operating properly. So far, no weird behavior or error codes.

But,

I wish we could have found a similar Pro S RWD model instead ( $4K less, no need for a hitch or electrically heated windshield and would have been about an inch lower, longer range and almost as quick as the AWD).

It would have been nice to have a spare tire.

It's so damned heavy, like any other EV.

It would have been great if the sunroof was optional rather than standard on the Pro S.

 

After dealing with a foggy windshield a couple of times, I really wish I had a heated windshield, despite the problems with cracks. Really frustrating in conditions where you don't want to heat or cool the cabin. (Turn on max defrost. Turn off max defrost to avoid the windshield and cabin from getting too cold. Go into climate control and turn off AC because you never wanted it on, but max defrost turns it on and doesn't turn it back off. Repeat every few miles.)

Related, my biggest complaint is a lack of a on/off control for heating. Just a temperature control is no where near good enough.

 

I just received an offer for a 2025 Pro S. 0% interest and $10,500 trade in. Tempting though I think I will wait a while.

 

Our '23 AWD Pro is our favorite car since our 1988 VW Quantum. A steep learning curve, to be sure, but no problems beyond an occasional minor software irritant and those annoying door-handle recalls.

Our #1 beef is VW's myopic management and its suspect corporate values that first showed up with Dieselgate. Our lease is up in February and, while it's possible we might renew for a year to see what else is coming down the EV pike--not much until 2027, it appears--it's just as likely we'll look elsewhere. We love our local(ish) VW dealer, but VW itself seems far less customer-forward these days than when it first won American hearts with the Beetle and the Bus and the Rabbit.

 

Our '23 AWD Pro is our favorite car since our 1988 VW Quantum. A steep learning curve, to be sure, but no problems beyond an occasional minor software irritant and those annoying door-handle recalls.

Our #1 beef is VW's myopic management and its suspect corporate values that first showed up with Dieselgate. Our lease is up in February and, while it's possible we might renew for a year to see what else is coming down the EV pike--not much until 2027, it appears--it's just as likely we'll look elsewhere. We love our local(ish) VW dealer, but VW itself seems far less customer-forward these days than when it first won American hearts with the Beetle and the Bus and the Rabbit.

Since you love the car, we would hate to see you leave VW. I also love my local dealer which can be worht more than the brand itself. It is also a tough call to what the latest and greatest new EV models for any brand. With my 2023 ID.4 and 2021 Kona EV before that, I jumped into the 3rd year out and avoided some glitches. If you can wait for an ID.4 that comes with NACS, that might be a consideration.

 

My wife reminded me yesterday of her beef: the seats don't go high enough. She's not even short, at 5'6", but with the seat adjusted comfortably it is way too low. I'm about 5'10" and have to put them all the way to the highest position in order to feel like I'm looking out the windshield properly. Another several inches, like 10 cm, of height would be appropriate.

 

One that comes with NACs would be a major redesign. That means the problems of a new design. Then there is my local stealership. Their service department tries but they are hamstrung by upper management.

 

I would like to say that my MAJOR complaint about my ID4, 2024, is the inability to charge at Tesla chargers. Where is my adaptor? And when will VW and Tesla come to some agreement regarding charging for us? Please!

 

Why did you buy it if this was a major fault?

 

I have two complaints;

Poor winter efficiency compared to most of the ID4's competitors

No battery preconditioning

 

I think you have to see what is actually available when your lease ends. For example, I had been expecting to choose between another ID. 4, an ID. 7, or an ID. Buzz when my 2022 lease expired. But there was a stop sale on the Buzz and the genius executives at Volkswagen of America had cancelled the ID. 7. Oops!

So by 2027 there could be a choice between a revamped ID. 4, or ID. Golf, or ID. Buzz, or ID. 7, or ??? Not to mention a bunch of stuff from other vendors that might or might not be available. Nobody knows.

 

Right. But my lease ends in February 2026, and the more interesting replacements don't begin to materialize--if they ever do--until the 2027 models become test-drivable in the fall of 26. Hence the conundrum: Extend the ID.4 lease for a year come February? See if we connect with the updated Subaru Solterra or the new Unhinged Uncharted? Or whiff dinosaur vapors with the trusty 20-year-old old Tacoma for a year-ish.

First-world problems, of course.

 

Although I’ve never leased a car, at this stage of EVs, I think that’s the way I would go for the next one if I were you. Depreciation will probably still be a problem. Despite an 8 year battery warranty, the drivetrain warranty is typically still only the bumper to bumper, typically 48 months/50,000 miles. AFAIK, only Tesla covers the motors/inverters as part of the battery warranty and now has a 7 year/unlimited mileage warranty on expensive things like axle half shafts, AC charger, etc. For alternatives, a 3 year lease with option to renew for a year makes the most sense for an EV if you won’t exceed the mileage. IMO and YMMV.

Even if the new Subaru Trailseeker for example came out by your February deadline, and even if planning to lease, I’d still want to spend up to a year on its forum seeing what early adopters are experiencing. For that reason, and since it would still be covered by the bumper to bumper warranty, I’d probably extend the lease on the ID.4 for a year, which will keep those miles off the Tacoma and extend its life. Consider that may put you in the situation of replacing the tires before turning it in.

I don’t expect VW to have an SSP replacement for the ID.4 until 2029 and again, I’d want to see how it goes with early adopters. And sadly, I don’t expect VW’s support to get any better but would hope to be wrong.

 

Depreciation will probably still be a problem.

The CEO of Recurrent provides some useful context about depreciation starting at about 33:20 here:

(There’s a good general discussion about the EV market before that as well.)

—Eric

 

My biggest complaint is the charging lock. I owned a Nissan Leaf before the ID.4. With the Leaf, if you needed the car when it was charging, you simply squeezed the charging handle and pulled it out. The ID.4 locks it in so you cannot release it, which is totally unnecessary for garage kept cars. The display doesn't always show the Cancel Charge button and even when it does show the button sometimes it does not unlock the charging handle. I have only owned the ID.4 for a little over a month and have used the emergency release in the trunk 3 times already. Volkswagen support is almost useless, they only tell you to take it to the dealer. I Don't want to waste my time or the dealers time because it only fails sometimes.

 

Hmmm..... . I've owned my ID.4 Pro RWD for a bit over two years, and I've never used the emergency release.

 

My major complaints are already listed (multiple times). I don’t think I saw the following minor complaint: Audio control buttons are on the left side of the steering wheel and counter intuitive. For some crazy reason, the volume arrow are left and right, while the track/station change arrows are up and down (up for previous track/station, down for the next). Our other car (and every other car I’ve owned that has audio controls on the steering wheel) has track selection left and right and volume control up and down.

 

That's been mentioned many times but in the context of earlier ID.4s where the audio controls were on the Right side of the Steering Wheel.

In two years of driving my ID.4, I never did adapt to that loony setup. Part of the reason one can't adapt (well, I couldn't adapt) is that on the touchscreen, some of the channel-changing menus are left and right.

 

They need to put a little time lag in between you wiggling around in the drivers seat for comfort or to raise yourself up a little to see something outside before the seat switch shuts the car off. Really ticks me off. Just add a few seconds.

 

a wiggle moment would be good