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Had a 2021 ID.4 new on 4/30/21. Traded at 30,000 miles on 5/12/23 for a 2023 EV 6 GT-Line RWD. IMHO the EV 6 is superior in almost every aspect. Everything in the EV 6 worked as advertised from Day 1. It has been recalled once and a “recommended” voluntary service campaign about a month after the recall. My ID was recalled five times in two years. I was still awaiting the recall to permit OTA updates. The EV 6 has OTA but only for infotainment/GPS updates.
The screens are far superior to the ID. The 800 volt architecture in the EV 6 permits 250 watts of charging. I am not going into “mine is bigger” arguments. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I very much enjoyed “butt in seat” starting and the fantastic turning radius of the ID.
Would I get another ID.4 when it is time to replace our EV 6? Perhaps as most of the problems have been fixed. I am more interested in the Equinox EV at this point. The choice comes 5/26.
 
I went on a trip last week and rented an EV at my destination. The EV reservation was for a “Mustang Mach-E or similar”, which ended up being a Kia EV6. The following are my notes and observations about the differences between that Kia EV6 rental and my VW ID.4.
Another odd thing about the EV6 is that it has little room to the right of the "gas" pedal. My wife has an artificial right leg and so she drives with her left leg and needs space on the right to rest her fake foot. In most cars this is a non-issue. Certain ICE cars like Subarus have a thick "hump" in the center of the car for the driveshaft, but otherwise she can drive any automatic-transmission car. But the EV6 is really tight in that space, and so considering that model was a non-starter for us. Plus she thought it was butt-ugly :)
 
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With all of the creaks, rattles, and other distractions you say are ‘features’ of your ID4 experience, I can say with a straight face and without hesitation that I have not had the same experience with my 3 year-old 1st Ed. It does not make ANY of the noises you are experiencing (unless I have something loose in the back that’s making noise). I also believe my car ‘creeps’ like an ICE, with no delay or soft ramp-up. Maybe it has to do with place of manufacture. Mine is a 2021 1st Ed, so by default it was built in Zwickau, Germany.

The biggest offender as far as rattles in my ID.4 comes from the center console, the cup holders are especially really bad. My understanding is the 2021/2022 ID.4s have a different center console, glad to hear the old design was better. I also get occasional vibration/rattling sounds from somewhere behind the steering wheel (I posted a video of it a while back). The door handles also rattle on occasion, and there's frequently a noise coming from just behind the driver's seat on the left, I think it's coming from the seat belt height adjuster.

Interesting about the creep on your ID.4. Mine 100% has a ramp-up, and the one I test drove way back when did too, so I just assumed that was normal. It's most noticeable when releasing the brake from an incline. Anyway, I actually prefer the ramp-up behavior when using auto-hold, which I always use, so it's a plus for me. I'm curious now how it works on other ID.4s though.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
 
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Another odd thing about the EV6 is that it has little room to the right of the "gas" pedal. My wife has an artificial right leg and so she drives with her left leg and needs space on the right to rest her fake foot. In most cars this is a non-issue. Certain ICE cars like Subarus have a thick "hump" in the center of the car for the driveshaft, but otherwise she can drive any automatic-transmission car. But the EV6 is really tight in that space, and so considering that model was a non-starter for us. Plus she thought it was butt-ugly :)
Very interesting!

It's funny the things that get revealed when you try something out in-person.
 
Certainly glad you found that out before buying it for sure!

Another odd thing about the EV6 is that it has little room to the right of the "gas" pedal. My wife has an artificial right leg and so she drives with her left leg and needs space on the right to rest her fake foot. In most cars this is a non-issue. Certain ICE cars like Subarus have a thick "hump" in the center of the car for the driveshaft, but otherwise she can drive any automatic-transmission car. But the EV6 is really tight in that space, and so considering that model was a non-starter for us. Plus she thought it was butt-ugly :)
 
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I also can't say that I've had any rattles, etc. either but our car is also a German-built FY'21 (with the European center console).

I do agree that the brake pedal is not as good as other EV's I've driven for sure (or ICE cars).

The biggest offender as far as rattles in my ID.4 comes from the center console, the cup holders are especially really bad. My understanding is the 2021/2022 ID.4s have a different center console, glad to hear the old design was better. I also get occasional vibration/rattling sounds from somewhere behind the steering wheel (I posted a video of it a while back). The door handles also rattle on occasion, and there's frequently a noise coming from just behind the driver's seat on the left, I think it's coming from the seat belt height adjuster.

Interesting about the creep on your ID.4. Mine 100% has a ramp-up, and the one I test drove way back when did too, so I just assumed that was normal. It's most noticeable when releasing the brake from an incline. Anyway, I actually prefer the ramp-up behavior when using auto-hold, which I always use, so it's a plus for me. I'm curious now how it works on other ID.4s though.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
 
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My 2022 has a rattle somewhere in the back. It sounds like a wire in the tailgate, maybe.
 
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I just had a defective trunk latch replaced that was causing an annoying noise when going over speed bumps. The service advisor described it as a chatter. It took a couple of techs (driver plus a listener) to track it down. It also took a couple of visits to fix as the first replacement part they received was defective. Much quieter now 😀
 
With all of the creaks, rattles, and other distractions you say are ‘features’ of your ID4 experience, I can say with a straight face and without hesitation that I have not had the same experience with my 3 year-old 1st Ed. It does not make ANY of the noises you are experiencing (unless I have something loose in the back that’s making noise). I also believe my car ‘creeps’ like an ICE, with no delay or soft ramp-up. Maybe it has to do with place of manufacture. Mine is a 2021 1st Ed, so by default it was built in Zwickau, Germany.
or maybe it has to do with the DAY of week your car was made. ;-) It could be a Wednesday car, which proved to be noiseless. Not the same story with Monday or Friday cars. My ID3 was definitely started to be built on a Friday, and got finished on a Monday. Full of rattling. Even missing screws under the dashboard.
 
At least in the US cars, believe that setting is the default. Even on L1 when the car is actively charging I can only remove the plug after I use the key fob or open the drive or front passenger door and unlock the car. If the charge is done (no light by the charge plug) it can be removed no problem.

I’ve never changed that setting myself that I recall.

not always possible to unplug a car when charging. In my ID3, I can set the cable to be unplugged only if I press the button on my keyfob.
 
or maybe it has to do with the DAY of week your car was made. ;-) It could be a Wednesday car, which proved to be noiseless. Not the same story with Monday or Friday cars. My ID3 was definitely started to be built on a Friday, and got finished on a Monday. Full of rattling. Even missing screws under the dashboard.
That's carryover thinking from way back in the day. Most any vehicle these days is primarily robot stamped/welded/assembled/painted and also mostly vendor provided sub-assemblies. The factory/vendor robots don't care what day it is. Until they become self-aware that is. 🤖

Note tho' that @Plant Peon has told us it is more of a pajama party at the USA factory on Monday morning. :ROFLMAO:

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Presumably you use a high quality extension cord that is well rated for the task. The EVSE manufacturers are of course litigation averse given that some folks will use an underrated cord and/or extend it too far. There's also the heat dissipation, or rather lack thereof, from the usually more substantial extension cord insulation/jacketing, which by the way is why typical Romex 10/12/14AWG wiring should not by USA code be run in a conduit.

But then we've all stretched the rules at times with, hopefully, good technical sense. I powered my shed "temporarily" with a high quality construction "direct burial" extension cord as when built I had thoughts it might be soon relocated. That never happened and no issues. But short distance and very low draw of a few LED bulbs and the occasional tool/tractor battery charger (GFCI in shed grounded by its own copper rod). It was still on my to do list but just one of those never got around to its.
 
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