Do you pull out of the garage in forward or reverse? I posted a couple days ago that I, too, have found a little odd behavior when trying to slow creep forward, where it stops abruptly for no good reason.

 

Yep, turn that crap off. Horrible trying to land in the garage with it on.

 

Agreed. Its too clunky.

 

Put it on the pull down menu and turn it off and on at will.

 

I turned mine off after 1 mile of use after the 3.1 upgrade. I see no use for this option in my future. Don't want or need it.

 

Here we so wanted this capability and yet when finally provided ..... 🤷‍♂️

 

We probably wanted a version of it that 1) worked and 2) had good human factors.

The current implementation is just like most of the ID.4 software: A great idea on PowerPoint but operating as if they never tested it in the real world with real drivers. Even an idiot testing this feature would have recognized that AutoHold has no business actuating in Reverse.

 

I turned if off because of the issue I had 2 weeks ago with the "Electrical system failure " error that left me dead in the middle of the road. I got the 3.1 update in June with 15k miles. No idea if the Auto Hold had any effect, but the dealership did say they saw a parking brake sensor error. I didn't really like it anyways.

 

I guess YMMV applies here as well. I like Auto Hold. I've had no issues using it going forward or in reverse.

 

Auto hold is essential when you drive in stop and go traffic on incline roads.

 

What about the rear drum brakes?

Or non-in-tire TPMS? 🤪

 

Let's not leave out the unlit temp and volume sliders?

 

OMG, 2 switches for 4 windows?

 

Let's not forget lack of OPD?

 

@Spin, please refrain from using God's name in vain. Thank you.

 

OMG=Oh my, Gertrude!

 

Makes me wonder if this is problem of older models with 3.1 upgrade behaving worse than 2023 model. On my 2023 Pro S I have no issues at all with this - slight tap on accelerator releases Auto-hold well before car starts accelerating, there is enough dead motion before car react. And engaging Auto-hold requires significant push on break beyond simple continuous breaking, basically I need to push beyond regular use. Also, I think my car will not engage Auto-Hold unless it is stationary for short time. Basically, it is as seamless and nonintrusive as it gets.
May be earlier models do not behave correctly?

 

Makes me wonder if this is problem of older models with 3.1 upgrade behaving worse than 2023 model. On my 2023 Pro S I have no issues at all with this - slight tap on accelerator releases Auto-hold well before car starts accelerating, there is enough dead motion before car react. And engaging Auto-hold requires significant push on break beyond simple continuous breaking, basically I need to push beyond regular use. Also, I think my car will not engage Auto-Hold unless it is stationary for short time. Basically, it is as seamless and nonintrusive as it gets.
May be earlier models do not behave correctly?

Nope, mines a 2021 (first batch of AWD to reach these shores) and it’s perfectly fine…

 

No issues at all with 2021 on 3.1. Very smooth and easy to use.

 

No issues at all with 2021 on 3.5. Very smooth and easy to use.

You're the first 2021 owner I've heard of who has 3.5. I've only ever seen 3.1 reported on 2021 cars. When did you get your car updated to 3.5?

 

May be earlier models do not behave correctly?

Mine is a 2021 with 3.1 update and it works fine as you describe. Yet the OP is a 23 model who is complaining about it. Maybe it some people have trouble being gentle with the go pedal or brake pedal?

 

I love it for driving in the city. It took me a few days to get the feel of the pedal for how to brake without engaging it while parking, etc., but other than that easy-peasy. My only problem is occasionally forgetting my wife's car doesn't have it...

 

When I drove the 2022 ID.4 loaner for 2 weeks I noticed that the Auto Hold was a little more "clunky" when it engaged vs. my 2023, but it was still very manageable. Breaking out of AH was the same ... just feather the accelerator until AH disengages and the car starts to creep.

 

I don't think there is any reason to have Auto Hold active when in reverse. The vehicle should creep when in reverse and controlled by one pedal instead of two.

 

I don't think there is any reason to have Auto Hold active when in reverse. The vehicle should creep when in reverse and controlled by one pedal instead of two.

Indeed. As @Atlant well said it appears VW let some programmer activate same but didn't have a human factors engineer subsequently evaluate. 🤦‍♂️

Fortunately it may be deactivated, but thereby again waiting for its [proper] implementation.

 

For me and my wife. It drives more like a real car with Auto Hold disengaged. So, it stays off. Trying to go slow into the garage to hit the bump stop it engages way too frequently, even with a light touch. With it off it just rolls right into the bump stop and all is good. How did people drive before without it? My Nissan Truck has Hill Start Assist. Basically if you are at a stop in drive on a hill it automatically engages the brake then releases when you press the gas. That's a feature we could use on the ID 4

 

My Nissan Truck has Hill Start Assist. Basically if you are at a stop in drive on a hill it automatically engages the brake then releases when you press the gas.

My Golf has that feature... as did my Subaru before it. (Both manual transmissions) Maybe they only include it with manual transmissions?

 

No. I also have a Lexus RX350. When I release the brake on an incline during stop, it will not slip. So should I say it is essential in a good car?

 

I've noticed quite a few people here who believe that their cars can't be brought to a stop without engaging AutoHold while others are equally adamant that it can easily be done.

(Me, I'm in the later camp; I have no trouble bringing my ID.4 to a stop without necessarily engaging AutoHold.)

AutoHold isn't tripped merely by the brake light being activated; if that were true, none of us would be able to get to a stop without engaging it. So I SUPPOSE* it's being done by reaching a certain degree of hydraulic pressure in the brakes. That makes me wonder if that tripping pressure varies from car to car, making it relatively easier or harder for a given car to reach a stop without engaging AutoHold?

* Alternatively, it could be done by measuring Brake Pedal travel but I can't see any other use for that data whereas there's plenty of reasons why the ABS system might want to know about the hydraulic pressures in the various brake line segments.

 

I've noticed quite a few people here who believe that their cars can't be brought to a stop without engaging AutoHold while others are equally adamant that it can easily be done.

I believe that AutoHold is activated AFTER the car is stopped. Sure I can drive the car without Autohold and have no trouble to bring it to a stop. It is only meant to keep the car from slip backward in D mode. Of course it also prevents the car "crawl" forward when the brake is released. That's the complain and I can live with it and believe that the benefit is more prevalent.

 

So I don't know if a lot of you don't know this, but lots of ICE vehicles have auto hold, and it... doesn't work the same way. In my mazda (gas), auto hold only engages when the car is already stopped with the brake pedal deeply pressed. The ID.4 is different in engaging auto hold while the car is still crawling, which is just... not necessary. At all. It honestly makes no sense. It's not a big deal, but it's not a good implementation. It's the only car I've driven (of several with auto hold) that engages it before the vehicle is at a full stop.

 

Looking at this never ending discussion... May be those complaining do have very good point and their car Autohold setting is incorrect? May be there is some adjustment in sensors, which needs to be done for their car to behave as cars of those of us who have no problems. Did anyone tried to bring this to dealer as warranty repair? 2023 model surely qualifies.
May be I am mistaken - I grew up fixing my own cars and setting ignition timing, brake pedal engagement point, etc - so I have to believe there are sensors which can be adjusted under the hood... I mean something must be attached to the brake/accelerator pedals and it better be more than one sensor for safety. May be the sensors are not set correctly and the one used by Autohold is engaging too early?
And yes, bringing car to dealer when not critically necessary is self punishment, considering the bad stories we keep reading here.

 

I think "Hill Holder" "No Roll" was first introduced by Studebaker back in 1936-1937. It is also a system that allows drivers of manual transmission [three pedal] cars to have their right foot poised to accelerate with the left foot on the clutch. Otherwise on hills, they'd have to engage the emergency/hand brake. YMMV.

 

Otherwise on hills, they'd have to engage the emergency/hand brake. YMMV.

Nah, just quick feet. Twenty years of manual transmission, hardly ever used the handbrake for that.