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Regen Braking — How efficient?

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#1 ·
I realize there are many variables with regenerative braking, but I'm curious as to how much recharging one typically gets in normal city driving. Does it make a lot of difference or does it just help out some?
 
#3 ·
Keep in mind, the ID.4 has strong regenerative braking, as it has a blended braking system. To use it, you press the brake pedal and all but the strongest braking is purely regen braking. If more braking force is requested via the brake pedal, the car automatically blends in the friction brakes. I honestly believe VW did this because it’s intuitive for people coming from ICE vehicles. One pedal driving is not intuitive for new EV folks and requires you to always be modulating your foot on the accelerator pedal, even when slowing down. I do wish VW offered an option to turn one pedal driving on or off, though.
 
#11 ·
I just got back from test driving the ID.4. This was my first-ever experience with an EV. I’m not sure if I was in Sport mode or not, but I was not a fan of B mode. it felt like I was constantly battling the brake, like I had left on my parking brake. Maybe it’s something you get used to over time but it just fel unnatural to me. I was glad to have a more normal alternat I could switch to with D mode.
 
#14 ·
My wife has owned manuals her whole life until her last car. She hates driving my i3, which has a fair amount of regen (not completely 1-pedal, but close), but it's also a bouncy little s4it that handles like a go-cart. Anyway, she's no fan. So she's been driving her ID.4 for a month and I ask her to use my drained-down i3 so I can have the ID for a long-distance donut run. "Ugh," she says, "OK." She gets home in the i3, I ask how it was, and she says "NOW I understand the one-pedal driving. Not too bad!" So I hate to say it, but maybe VWs dumbed-down and selectable B mode is a good thing as a training aid?
 
#16 ·
I'll jump in with another boost for B-mode, particularly around town. I initially thought I'd love it, then I bought the car and didn't love it. Now after several hundred miles, I really like B-mode around town. It takes a delicate touch on the accelerator pedal to not get head-bobs from the passenger seat - and that's your clue that you're doing it wrong. With some practice, I am getting similar mi/kWh numbers as D-mode, this requires feathering the accelerator and sort of simulating D-mode a bit.

I like that I know I'm not using the friction brakes much, except for that pesky last 3 MPH. Ahem. Cough, cough. Single-pedal driving and all that.

I'd love to have three or four B-mode settings, with various levels of regen, buried in a menu. This would just be the same "Eco, Comfort, Sport" settings, but with, you know, settings. Even better, I'd like the ability to adjust the curve that it uses to implement the regen but that's way too nerdy for a production car. I'd really just prefer a slightly gentler beginning when I release the accelerator.
 
#18 ·
I don't think there's an EV or hybrid currently for sale that doesn't utilize regenerstive braking.

I recall one owner on the i3 Facebook group who said he'd made a practice of repeatedly overspeeding then regenning during his commute to "gain miles." I hope he was joking. There's no free lunch. Regen is great when you need to slow down, but it's always more efficient not to get to get to an unnecessarily high speed in the first place.
 
#19 ·
I don't think there's an EV or hybrid currently for sale that doesn't utilize regenerstive braking.

I recall one owner on the i3 Facebook group who said he'd made a practice of repeatedly overspeeding then regenning during his commute to "gain miles." I hope he was joking. There's no free lunch. Regen is great when you need to slow down, but it's always more efficient not to get to get to an unnecessarily high speed in the first place.
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