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I've finally replaced the speakers and added a real sub to the car, I'm extremely pleased with the result. I went with the Focal Inside solution for the speakers, a Musway M4 +v3 DPS and a JL Audio ACS112LG-TW1 for the sub. I made a hole in the raised load floor so that the sub almost takes up no extra space at all.
 
Any news / progress on this? We are interested, and thanks for rooting around into the corners with obd 11 and keeping us posted.
Finally replying to the post. I did check the OBD11 sound items with the Focus rear speaker replacements- no difference to MY ears, but- I did a modification to the speakers before hand that could have biased the test. I installed a LPAD to the Focal tweeter wires which reduced just the tweeters by 7-9 dB. This was modestly easy and pretty cheap to do if you have soldering skills. I can post pictures if there is any interest. I feel the sound of 4 Focal 165s in all doors is quite good if you do the L pad mod to the rear tweeters. I would be interested in doing a more scientific study, but dont have the proper software or calibrated microphones.
 
if you took photos i'd love to see em but don't go tearing things apart.
Will post later tonight, and a very brief how- to. The worst part of the process for me was NOT the door clips people were worried about, but rather removing the door handle cover to get to the two torx screws for the door handle. I broke at least one of the tabs on every door handle no matter how gentle I was, and I did order the suggested tools. I also installed vinyl carbon fiber film on all the shiny black finish of the door handles at the same time since I had them off and could stretch nicely around the edges. I can show a few pictures of that too if people had interest.
 
I used the mentioned Focal IC VW 165 speaker for all doors. In the rears, due to the consensus that the rear speakers would be to bright from having over driven high frequencies out of the VW EQ crossover curves, I installed an L pad resistor set according to the articles in

L-Pad Calculator on the rear tweeter speakers of the 165 coax set. The screenshot shows how I used the second box calculator and inputed 2 identical 1 ohm resistors and got a dB output from the calculator. I state that the db reduction to be between 7 and 9 db, due to the impedance being either 2 or 4 ohms for the Focal speakers. They say 2 ohm on the box, but my research showed most VW speakers are 4 ohm.



The resistors are in the second picture, and are bought on Amazon for 5 ish dollars. They are sound rated 10 Watt 5% accuracy resistors, you cannot use low power electronics resistors. These are kind of big and bulky, but were fast to get, cheaper wire wound 10 Watt ceramic resistors are available that work perfectly fine, but were on a longer delivery.

I breadboarded them up according to the schematic in the above link, then wired them back into the tweeter speakers(the non insulated wires in 3rd picture) tidied up the wires with tie wraps, hot melt glue gunned to parts of the speaker support to stop any rattling.

They perform quite well, and I am happy.

I also tried a failed experiment, trying to have a very clean install and never get into those door handles again, I purchased a set of foam speaker door enclosures and installed. They totally killed the bass. I notice some nice sound dampening tape behind the speakers on outer door skin also, so they must be crudely designed as a sound enclosure and need the entire door cavity for best effect.

I also took advantage of the door handles being off and available on a bench and vinyl wrapped all the door handles and arm rests with carbon fiber look film. My first time and I got better at it as I got all 8 of the pieces done to get rid of the super shiny black finger print grabber.
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I have upgraded the DSPs, Speakers to Blaupunkt C30 Front, C25 Rear and a Nakamichi 12" Sub. Cost about 3gs. One good thing need to mention is there are no need to install sound insulations inside the door panels, they were all hard plastics (ABS), not those glued cheap plastic films.
Hi blitztorm! Can you show me how you connect amplifier?
 
Has anyone removed the armrests and A pillars and not broken any clips. I have the focal IS, IC, and amp, and I’d like to replace the speakers but am nervous about the removal process? Any good videos or how tos out there beyond what’s been mentioned in this thread?
Thanks.
 
Hi all,

I plan on getting the IC and IS speakers I'm not sure about the amp. Would it make that much of a difference? Also if I buy the speakers only do I need any of the harness listed?
TIA
You don't need a harness, but then you are cutting wires. The harness basically makes is plug and play and allows you to restore it back to stock quickly.
 
Ok so I'm buying the Focal inside on ebay plus the amp. So I guess my last question is do I need the amp harness and extension?
I didn't add an amp so I cannot comment on that.
No, you do not need any harnesses if you just replace the speakers.
You don't need a harness, but then you are cutting wires. The harness basically makes is plug and play and allows you to restore it back to stock quickly.
 
Hi all,
Firstly thanks for a really informative thread and an excellent tutorial on how to upgrade the speakers. I am almost tempted to try it myself :)

However, I have one question - as no one else has mentioned it might be just me, but I'll ask anyway. In my ID.4 when I turn the sound up far enough, and sibilance occurs (which is a new word I've just learned, thanks to this thread) the whole volume is reduced slightly (in what seems like a way for the system to save the speakers from excessive high frequencies). However, it does it really badly and just causes the sound to wave up and down. Does this mod fix that? Is there another fix for it? Or, is it just me?

Many thanks in advance.
I have, it seems, exactly the same problem with the sound in my ID4 GTX. Has reported this error and VW has tried to find out what is wrong for just over 3 months but makes absolutely no progress. The sound is rubbish and centered sound does not work at all, ie the system can’t handel that. If I only use the front speakers, the sound cuts less but is not good anyway. Another phenomenon is that from 60 - 100% on the volume adjustment, the volume is not increased at all, ie there is no level difference at all. They have saved money by installing a totally useless car stereo. I look forward to Volkswagen's solution to this problem. The built in amplifier is not strong enough to handle all six speakers....that's all and I'm just waiting for VW to confess that.
 
I have, it seems, exactly the same problem with the sound in my ID4 GTX. Has reported this error and VW has tried to find out what is wrong for just over 3 months but makes absolutely no progress. The sound is rubbish and centered sound does not work at all, ie the system can’t handel that. If I only use the front speakers, the sound cuts less but is not good anyway. Another phenomenon is that from 60 - 100% on the volume adjustment, the volume is not increased at all, ie there is no level difference at all. They have saved money by installing a totally useless car stereo. I look forward to Volkswagen's solution to this problem. The built in amplifier is not strong enough to handle all six speakers....that's all and I'm just waiting for VW to confess that.
I can blow mine and my family's ears out in our GTX (with decent sounding audio, at that), and I have experienced none of the odd fluctuations you mention - are you sure you don't have a faulty amplifier?
 
I can blow mine and my family's ears out in our GTX (with decent sounding audio, at that), and I have experienced none of the odd fluctuations you mention - are you sure you don't have a faulty amplifier?
Thanks for responding! I wish that was me and my ID4. 😉 I'm not sure of anything but something is wrong for sure. I'll wait for VW:s solution/ explanation with great interest. 😁
 
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The sound is rubbish and centered sound does not work at all, ie the system can’t handel that. If I only use the front speakers, the sound cuts less but is not good anyway. Another phenomenon is that from 60 - 100% on the volume adjustment, the volume is not increased at all, ie there is no level difference at all. They have saved money by installing a totally useless car stereo. I look forward to Volkswagen's solution to this problem. The built in amplifier is not strong enough to handle all six speakers....that's all and I'm just waiting for VW to confess that.
What is the measured sound pressure level in the front seat when this problem occurs. Giving the value in dB and its associated weighting (db A?) would help others determine whether this is a universal problem or else unique to a smaller number of cars.
 
More Focal Inside here :) Upgraded fronts with Focal IS VW 165 first to assess the sound difference and RoI. The bass is deeper, and the trebles are cleaner. This is sounding great, considering integrated amplifier. Did assessment while one side was fully upgraded, other stock. Tried different genres and styles from Mozart to Sting, Pentatonix, Ed Sheeran and of course Top Gun. I'll update the back with the IC kit. Installation simple, did use the Focal rivets and applied a lot of sound deadening material. The door close sound has changed a bit with the sound deadening, it's noticeable. I'm still impressed by the quality of all the components and how well is the car made. Kudos for that VW.

Some visuals

a) Visual comparison of speakers - EOM on the left, Focal on the right.
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b) Added sound deadening (silver) - both on the door and full coverage of the trim from inside.
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And the final touch, make sure to wear your white gloves while applying these ;););)

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...since I had the door open, there is one more tweak - coming shortly...
 
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