[SunWizard]

Keep it in the laundry room by the dryer?

Put it in a metal box, then you don't need 30'. I keep mine 25' away (edit: not in a box) and have not needed to replace either of my 2 fobs battery yet in 20 months.

 

[2928]

My house is approximately 40 by 40 feet. The charger is mounted approximately 10 feet from the right edge. Just how the frick am I supposed supposed to keep it the 30 feet from the car that was previously suggested? Keep it in the laundry room by the dryer? Under the electrical panel in the guest room situated by the other back corner? The fob simply should have an off switch.

You could get a faraday pouch and store the fob in that? I’ve seen several on Amazon.

 

[ericy]

Cars should be backed into parking spaces... Transportation studies have proven its safer but people are resistant. If everyone back in as they should, makes sense that charge port in rear or side rear...

In our town, they will ticket you for backing into a parking spot where you can instead park head-in. Same goes for parking with your car facing the wrong way on the street.

I don't make the rules, but I know people who have gotten tickets.

 

[Froggy]

Not to mention many parking placed are angled the wrong way to back in without a 6 point turn. Which brings me back to the line of traffic behind you. The EA station in Saraland AL is that way.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

My house is approximately 40 by 40 feet. The charger is mounted approximately 10 feet from the right edge. Just how the frick am I supposed supposed to keep it the 30 feet from the car that was previously suggested? Keep it in the laundry room by the dryer? Under the electrical panel in the guest room situated by the other back corner? The fob simply should have an off switch.

As @d287 said...

Amazon has dozens of faraday boxes available
Faraday Box Key Fob Protector

Also, the fob powers down after a while according to the Self Study Program 871213C "The ID.4 Electrical and Communication Systems". Most likely only happens when the key is away from the vehicle.

"MEMS sensor Micro electromechanical systems. Movement sensor in the key (internal transceiver is switched off after applied time and lack of motion)"

We live in a condo and I got my first low battery warning after 19 month at around 42k KM. The batteries do last when stored away.

 

[CrzJms]

In our town, they will ticket you for backing into a parking spot where you can instead park head-in. Same goes for parking with your car facing the wrong way on the street.

I don't make the rules, but I know people who have gotten tickets.

I bet the ticket is for illegally crossing a double line. I've seen towns do that.
Hinsdale Il does that.... So ass backwards, no pun intended...

 

[Perry Rhodan]

In our town, they will ticket you for backing into a parking spot where you can instead park head-in. Same goes for parking with your car facing the wrong way on the street.

Whenever permitted and possible backing up in a parking space is often the better safer option.

Not to mention many parking placed are angled the wrong way to back in without a 6 point turn. Which brings me back to the line of traffic behind you. The EA station in Saraland AL is that way.

Angled parking spaces are normally set for head-in only, up here we see them in parking lots with one way lanes or in small towns. Backing into an angled space will quite likely result in driving against traffic flow.

 

[ThisSucker'sElectrical]

Don't mean to get back on topic, but...

Overall I really like the car. As others have said, the software stuff is pretty frustrating. Every bit as bad, if not worse, is VW's inability to address, or in large part, even acknowledge the software problems and express a concerted interest in fixing them. Making the 2.1 folks wait a couple of years for updated, still buggy software is just plain poor. My car started with 3.1. Just running a few errands today, the infotainment had a suddenly light background (even when the setting was still on 'dark') and I later got the incessant "new settings available" message. I've quit bothering trying to change most of the settings since they re-set so often. I did see an article today that they're bringing in someone from Tesla and Rivian to head up new software development, but I suspect any big changes will be years away and only geared toward the next-gen cars.

This is my first VW. I've generally liked VWs over the years and was excited to own one. But so far, VW has done nothing to build any brand loyalty for me.

 

[2928]

Don't mean to get back on topic, but...

Overall I really like the car. As others have said, the software stuff is pretty frustrating. Every bit as bad, if not worse, is VW's inability to address, or in large part, even acknowledge the software problems and express a concerted interest in fixing them. Making the 2.1 folks wait a couple of years for updated, still buggy software is just plain poor. My car started with 3.1. Just running a few errands today, the infotainment had a suddenly light background (even when the setting was still on 'dark') and I later got the incessant "new settings available" message. I've quit bothering trying to change most of the settings since they re-set so often. I did see an article today that they're bringing in someone from Tesla and Rivian to head up new software development, but I suspect any big changes will be years away and only geared toward the next-gen cars.

This is my first VW. I've generally liked VWs over the years and was excited to own one. But so far, VW has done nothing to build any brand loyalty for me.

See, I’ve never seen the settings reset message in six months since the 3.1 update… I’ve seen a few reports of this, and I have a suspicion it’s an issue with a module. There’s also supposedly a fix for the issue in Europe. I’d take it in and ask the dealer to scan for errors…

 

[ThisSucker'sElectrical]

See, I’ve never seen the settings reset message in six months since the 3.1 update… I’ve seen a few reports of this, and I have a suspicion it’s an issue with a module. There’s also supposedly a fix for the issue in Europe. I’d take it in and ask the dealer to scan for errors…

It's been a couple of months now, but I did take it to the dealer. They said they weren't able to do anything because they couldn't replicate the problem. But this speaks directly to my frustration with VW. I read about the service bulletin in Europe too, so I'm convinced that someone at VW knows exactly what the problem is, but I have yet to hear of anyone having this fixed here in the US.

 

[VoltswagenStan]

For #1, it only shuts off if you remove your seatbelt… as long as your seatbelt is on you can do whatever you want… and you can absolutely leave the climate on for your wife … just tap “Immediate Climate Control” which pops on the goodbye screen when you remove your seatbelt.

Aye, there's the rub. To get my wallet out of my pocket, I have to unbuckle the belt. Even if I had my wallet out in advance (with no good place to put it), I still have to take off the belt to reach my right arm across my body to swipe my card in the reader.

The problem with the Immediate Climate Control is that unless you leave the key in the car, it shuts off as soon as you walk away from the car. Problem not solved.

I learned of a hack in this forum where if you plug in a seat belt extender as you release your belt, the car won't shut off. But the seats often do crazy things if you leave the car while the belts are apparently plugged in.

 

[2928]

The problem with the Immediate Climate Control is that unless you leave the key in the car, it shuts off as soon as you walk away from the car. Problem not solved.

Not in my experience… it stays on for 30 minutes with the car closed, and even locked.

PS: maybe leave the keycard in the car, not the wallet? Or move the wallet to the front pocket? (Chiropractors say it’s better there!)

 

[VoltswagenStan]

Not in my experience… it stays on for 30 minutes with the car closed, and even locked.

PS: maybe leave the keycard in the car, not the wallet? Or move the wallet to the front pocket? (Chiropractors say it’s better there!)

Well, it's a credit card, not a key card. Not a good idea to leave it in the car. Besides, no good place to put it. My Bolt has a nice pocket under the steering wheel where I can stow a wallet (or my separate wallet for all my separate charging RFID cards) during a long trip. I still would have to unbuckle my belt to fetch the wallet from the front pocket. Meanwhile my two front pockets are already occupied with 1.) cell phone and 2.) key fob and house and mail box keys so I don't sit on them and butt dial or set off the car alarm.

I think that the aux. climate is supposed to stay on, but it doesn't. It shuts off as soon as I walk away. Nothing seems to work consistently in the car.

I forgot to add my other beef with the car. The location of the charging port. It means I always have to walk all the way around the car to get to or from the charge port from the driver's seat. And, it means I have to back into the charging spot which is really hard given the poor visibility out the back window. If I have bikes on back, which I usually do on a long trip, the rear camera view is blocked. Then I have to pull up so close to the charger that the bikes are literally touching the charger in order for the cables to reach. Some people say it's safer to back in. That's not strictly true. You are more likely to hit another parked car backing in. It's only true that pulling out forward is safer than backing out and the consequences of that are more severe. The port on my Bolt is on the front panel of the driver side - easy to get to, allows you to park straight in. Just a much easier experience.

Despite all my complaints (I worked as an engineer, so I always want to fix things), I do like the car. I don't love it, but I do like it.

 

[new to electrics]

Yours lasts 6 months? I feel like I'm always changing mine...

Well, it's a credit card, not a key card. Not a good idea to leave it in the car. Besides, no good place to put it. My Bolt has a nice pocket under the steering wheel where I can stow a wallet (or my separate wallet for all my separate charging RFID cards) during a long trip. I still would have to unbuckle my belt to fetch the wallet from the front pocket. Meanwhile my two front pockets are already occupied with 1.) cell phone and 2.) key fob and house and mail box keys so I don't sit on them and butt dial or set off the car alarm.

I think that the aux. climate is supposed to stay on, but it doesn't. It shuts off as soon as I walk away. Nothing seems to work consistently in the car.

I forgot to add my other beef with the car. The location of the charging port. It means I always have to walk all the way around the car to get to or from the charge port from the driver's seat. And, it means I have to back into the charging spot which is really hard given the poor visibility out the back window. If I have bikes on back, which I usually do on a long trip, the rear camera view is blocked. Then I have to pull up so close to the charger that the bikes are literally touching the charger in order for the cables to reach. Some people say it's safer to back in. That's not strictly true. You are more likely to hit another parked car backing in. It's only true that pulling out forward is safer than backing out and the consequences of that are more severe. The port on my Bolt is on the front panel of the driver side - easy to get to, allows you to park straight in. Just a much easier experience.

Despite all my complaints (I worked as an engineer, so I always want to fix things), I do like the car. I don't love it, but I do like it.

Some of the things you complain about seem like nothing to me. The charging port is on the right rear panel. When I charged at an EA station, it was in exactly the right spot to conveniently plug in. At home, my charging site is on the side of my garage that requires that I back into the garage. That's ok, then I don't have to back out in the morning. Walking around the car from the driver's seat isn't really hard for me, and I can't imagine that most people would be bothered by that. So far as wallets, cell phones, pockets, I store things in the console when I am driving. Sitting on a wallet is a recipe for sciatica. Sitting on a cell phone seems like it might be a good way to break the phone. And isn't the wireless charger dock the place to put the cell phone? Mine won't charge because it doesn't have the set up to do that, but still, it fits nicely there. Regarding the car shutting off when you take off the seat belt: Starts right up again when you step on the brake. I even drove my ID.4 the length of my driveway today without the seat belt being fastened, albeit I was warned to buckle up. The car serves my purpose. It gets me from where I am to where I need to be, and it doesn't use fossil fuel to do s.

 

[Froggy]

I lined my driveway (single width) with solar yard lights on the left as I back in. The charger is to the right . A concrete paver is on the driveway, when my right tire bumps it I am at the perfect distance.

 

[VoltswagenStan]

Some of the things you complain about seem like nothing to me. The charging port is on the right rear panel. When I charged at an EA station, it was in exactly the right spot to conveniently plug in. At home, my charging site is on the side of my garage that requires that I back into the garage. That's ok, then I don't have to back out in the morning. Walking around the car from the driver's seat isn't really hard for me, and I can't imagine that most people would be bothered by that. So far as wallets, cell phones, pockets, I store things in the console when I am driving. Sitting on a wallet is a recipe for sciatica. Sitting on a cell phone seems like it might be a good way to break the phone. And isn't the wireless charger dock the place to put the cell phone? Mine won't charge because it doesn't have the set up to do that, but still, it fits nicely there. Regarding the car shutting off when you take off the seat belt: Starts right up again when you step on the brake. I even drove my ID.4 the length of my driveway today without the seat belt being fastened, albeit I was warned to buckle up. The car serves my purpose. It gets me from where I am to where I need to be, and it doesn't use fossil fuel to do s.

I don't know how your EA station is configured, but most EA stations have the charger at the end of parking space, not alongside it. So, you have to back into the spot, which, as I said, is not easy if you are carrying bikes on back. Then, I have to either walk out into traffic (most early stations were at Walmarts near the main driving entrance) or walk around the charger itself since there isn't room between the charger and the car with bikes. Even without bikes, you have to somehow get past the charging cable (go over or under) to get to the port to disconnect.

The car might "start right up" after pressing the brake, but my phone takes a minute or so to reconnect and Waze can take several minutes to reboot on the infotainment screen and resume my route. Meanwhile, if I'm in an unfamiliar area, I have to wait to see how to get out of the convoluted place that the charger is in to get back onto my route.

There is another problem with the car turning off when you get out. It used to be that the phone tap to charge feature on EA almost never worked, so you had to open the app, find the charger and swipe to initiate. Problem was that many remote charging stations had no cell coverage for my phone, so I was stuck. In the Bolt, I keep the car on and use the OnStar wireless hotspot to maintain connection. The OnStar wireless was on a different network than my phone so if my phone didn't have data service, my hot spot usually did. I had the VW car net at first, thinking I would have the same redundancy. But if the car turns off when you get out, you lose the VW car net connection, thus cancelling any redundancy you might have. You could dig out and throw the key back in the car and reach around to turn the car on with the button as long as you don't lean on the seat in the process or it will turn off again. However, that is a total PITA. That's why I ditched car net.

I do usually put the phone in the induction charger but it tends to overheat the phone without really giving it much charge. But the point is that I need my front pocket for my phone once I get out of the car so I can't be storing my wallet in there. I can't store my wallet and phone in the same pocket because the RF signal from the phone will scramble the magnetic strip on the card and I can't rely on having a working chip reader or tap everywhere I might want to buy something. In the Bolt on long distance trips, I did put my wallet in my front pocket (or the convenient pocket under the steering wheel) and the cell phone in the center console deck.

I actually wish that the ID.4 just was designed to be a vehicle to get you from A to B using the tried and true features that have been on ICE cars for decades. I don't want the car to decide when to start or stop running. I don't want 3 separate screens with obtuse functions for climate control. I don't want the car to slam on the brakes every time I try to back up with bikes on the back. VW tried to be too clever by half and include features (aka bugs) that nobody asked for and very few want.

 

[2928]

I don't know how your EA station is configured, but most EA stations have the charger at the end of parking space, not alongside it. So, you have to back into the spot, which, as I said, is not easy if you are carrying bikes on back. Then, I have to either walk out into traffic (most early stations were at Walmarts near the main driving entrance) or walk around the charger itself since there isn't room between the charger and the car with bikes. Even without bikes, you have to somehow get past the charging cable (go over or under) to get to the port to disconnect.

The car might "start right up" after pressing the brake, but my phone takes a minute or so to reconnect and Waze can take several minutes to reboot on the infotainment screen and resume my route. Meanwhile, if I'm in an unfamiliar area, I have to wait to see how to get out of the convoluted place that the charger is in to get back onto my route.

There is another problem with the car turning off when you get out. It used to be that the phone tap to charge feature on EA almost never worked, so you had to open the app, find the charger and swipe to initiate. Problem was that many remote charging stations had no cell coverage for my phone, so I was stuck. In the Bolt, I keep the car on and use the OnStar wireless hotspot to maintain connection. The OnStar wireless was on a different network than my phone so if my phone didn't have data service, my hot spot usually did. I had the VW car net at first, thinking I would have the same redundancy. But if the car turns off when you get out, you lose the VW car net connection, thus cancelling any redundancy you might have. You could dig out and throw the key back in the car and reach around to turn the car on with the button as long as you don't lean on the seat in the process or it will turn off again. However, that is a total PITA. That's why I ditched car net.

I do usually put the phone in the induction charger but it tends to overheat the phone without really giving it much charge. But the point is that I need my front pocket for my phone once I get out of the car so I can't be storing my wallet in there. I can't store my wallet and phone in the same pocket because the RF signal from the phone will scramble the magnetic strip on the card and I can't rely on having a working chip reader or tap everywhere I might want to buy something. In the Bolt on long distance trips, I did put my wallet in my front pocket (or the convenient pocket under the steering wheel) and the cell phone in the center console deck.

I actually wish that the ID.4 just was designed to be a vehicle to get you from A to B using the tried and true features that have been on ICE cars for decades. I don't want the car to decide when to start or stop running. I don't want 3 separate screens with obtuse functions for climate control. I don't want the car to slam on the brakes every time I try to back up with bikes on the back. VW tried to be too clever by half and include features (aka bugs) that nobody asked for and very few want.

I have two thoughts…

First, All DCFC should be pull-through, like gas stations. But I blame Tesla for the current layout, and everyone copied them.

Second, sit to start is the future, so we gotta get used to it. Tesla to Polestar, no one even includes the throwback button any longer… that’s something VW will ditch in the future, too… the current implementation may not be perfect, but the idea of turning a car on and off is something that won’t exist in a decade…

 

[3032]

4) no physical knobs for volume and temperature control (this is a problem in most EVs)

Physical buttons are for fidgety people. Cell phones don't have buttons, so move on to the new buttonless world.

 

[EcN]

1. No camping mode.
2. No one pedal drive.

 

[2928]

1. No camping mode.
2. No one pedal drive.

I never missed one pedal drive until I rented a Tesla on a trip. Hated everything about it except three things… the charger network, the reminder when the lights changed, and the ability to switch from creep to hold. Adding that last option would cost VW next to nothing - they already have Auto Hold.